"I wouldn't even rape you!" - UKIP MP Carl benjamin unapologetic

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Another pathetic male trying to intimidate a strong woman

Im not upset by the fact it's being talked about at all. And I've never once said he is in The right, all I am saying is that this one comment seems to be all they hang on, others make them.in different contexts or lights and it's brushed under the carpet as a non issue. If he had been standing for the libdems would it have blown up like this?
The comments where not made in recent months, for some reason people seem to think rape threats to woman in the public eye are acceptable so you can't really blame that on Benjamin with a story about her they where bound to go up be it because she liked a new t-shirt range or she said all men are pigs. Sadly it seems to be what happens. And no that's not right or defendable in any way what so ever but is far from his fault.
He doesn't constantly make jokes of this nature there fore they have just the one comment to go on. That's all I'm saying. One comment or stupid comedy show. There will be a big issue over it, ukip will lose as always and all the controversy will die down, the issue will never be resolved, people will still be as bike as ever, some will still feel the comments acceptable and the world will go back as it was.
These things always seem to rile everyone up rightfully so, just enough for things to be missed later down the road.
I do not think his comments acceptable at all however I do feel there are bigger targets out there that would yield results if gone after. Benjamin is not one of them, him and his comments will fade into obscurity and nothing will change because he's not a big name anywhere but YouTube.

What he has said and done is in record, and he gleefully admits it. How is that out of context?

We expect our politicians not to act like gobshites. It legitimises violent/aggressive behaviour.

Yet they do. Just slightly more politely. To be honest I would support a single politician out there as they are all covered in scandal somewy!

Rape isn't a joke. Jess has some gobsite trot down the road after her telling her that she needs to put up with rape jokes because 'I pay your wages'. That's what it legitimises.

The comments where not made in recent months, for some reason people seem to think rape threats to woman in the public eye are acceptable

That is what is being rightly challenged.
Its absolutely unacceptable.

Deborah Orr concludes:
"It’s almost as if there’s a little bit of Carl Benjamin’s ‘joking’ in many men, or at least a little part of those men that doesn’t want other men to think he’s a wuss. The thought is awful. But until this sort of psychological abuse against women is viewed as active misogyny, against the law, the thought will always be there."
inews.co.uk/opinion/carl-benjamin-rape-joke-jess-phillips-ukip-european-elections/

"If he had been standing for the libdems would it have blown up like this?"

Yes of course it would have. Why would you even think otherwise?

The guy who taught the pug to do the nazi salute is also an idiot.

This is a feminism board hence the attention to rape threats here.

There was also the UKIP MEP who called Ruth Davidson a fat lesbain.

It just shows what little respect they have for people around them

Politicians from other parties have had to step back from public life for idiotic comments, yet here is a party whose selling point is buffoons

I agree with captain

Its not satire...at all

Its also not 'a joke' or 'banter'

We don't hate him because he's UKIP. He's like this because he's UKIP. They're a cesspit.

If he had been standing for the libdems would it have blown up like this?

Of course it would

Whats his face tim something said he believed in god....the fallout from that!!

The one stupid and offensive comment doesn't make him the world's biggest hater of woman and an enemy though, people made the comments before and after him. He is not the inventor of the 'joke', even without him it will exist, even if he's prosecuted it will continue to exist and go largely ignored again until the next political scandle as it has done many times before. That's what should be in the news, not some prat with to much confidence from spouting off crap. Nothing will change even with the I hate Benjamin narrative of everywhere.

I'm not a strident feminist, but he made the comment, his mask has slipped we've seen who he is and he deserves to lose his career in 'public service' for it. UKIP or not.

This shit is never ok.

So what is it that you love about this charming chap?

The thing about humour is that it should be, you know, funny.

He's a politician for ukip. He has no career even with the comment
To be fair to him, he never wore a mask he has been very steady in the way he presents himself over the years from what I can tell not that that's an endorsement.
I just wish they stopped banging on about him and his comment as nothing will ever change.

Things will change if he gets his arse kicked for it. Rape jokes are never ok.

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UKIP chose to platform him.
Carl Benjamin's misogyny is on record. Its not 'one comment', this is the context:

(extract)
A leading Ukip candidate for the European elections argued that feminism was responsible for a rise in the number of men carrying out mass murders, because the killers felt disenfranchised and “out of options”, it has emerged.

Carl Benjamin, a social media activist who previously tweeted “I wouldn’t even rape you” to the Labour MP Jess Phillips, argued in a now-deleted YouTube video that feminism had caused male mental health to deteriorate, prompting more mass killings.

“This is what feminism has wrought – a generation of men who do not know what to do, who are being demonised for what they are,” said Benjamin, who uses the name Sargon of Akkad on social media.

“Before your stupid social justice feminist bullshit, it didn’t happen on this scale. It’s crazy – this is a disease of the modern age,” Benjamin said in the 2014 video, recorded after the murder of six people in California that year by a 22-year-old man who said the killings were a response to women rejecting him sexually.

“You are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don’t have any options left,” Benjamin said.

The comments were condemned by the charity Solace Women’s Aid, which tweeted: “What does this say to the 1 in 5 women who experience sexual violence? #VAWG [violence against women and girls] is perpetuated by comments like these.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/22/ukip-mep-candidate-carl-benjamin-blamed-feminists-for-rise-in-male-violence

all the comments are taken out of videos well over 45 mins long and presented with no lead up to the comment. What was the discussion that came first? Where those his words or a quote from some one else. Seems odd that's the only snap they can get doesn't it and from a career spanning years. And what about the quote from him saying he wanted to lower the age of consent, that quote was taken from 4 different videos and spliced together before being presented as a single qoute.
I just find it hard to swallow that any good will come of this, if something was changing or there was a discussion of change i would welcome it there's not it's a pure Benjamin evil retoric with no sign of meaningful conversation

“You are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don’t have any options left,

Ugh. If we can't have sex with women against their will, we'll have to kill people. What a fucking knob.

He's incredibly comfortable making a rape joke, because he condones rape.

"it's a pure Benjamin evil retoric"

I think it's more "Benjamin is a misogynist" rhetoric. Which should be unacceptable in someone who is expecting votes from that half of the population and then to represent that same half of the population.

One thing that might change or happen because of this is that he doesn't get voted in. That would be a good result.

Why do you care user

The mans a plonker....this is his 15 minutes of fame (which is embarrassing in itself) and then he will disappear into relative obscurity

People on the feminist board want to discuss it and the broader implications

Why do you want to stop them doing that

no sign of meaningful conversation

It's a discussion about a political candidate's attitudes to women during election time. How is that not meaningful?

this afternoon:

"Met Commissioner Cressida Dick says threats to MPs at "unprecedented" levels. Crimes reported by MPs more than doubled from 2017 to 2018 from 151 to 342 & set to increase further: MPs & staff reported 152 crimes and over 600 incidents between Jan and April this year.

Cressida Dick told Joint Human Rights Cttee murder of Jo Cox and attacks on others in public life had contributed to "extraordinary set of circumstances" with "polarised opinion" having "big impact"; women and BME communities were being disproportionately targeted, she said."

Men are always trying to tell us that rape jokes are no big deal. Of course there's an epidemic of rape and sexual assault, and rapists almost always get away with it too, but we shouldn't make connections between those things.