In general, what do you feel about The LGBT Foundation using a 'gender fluid' person to promote lesbian visibility day?

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No links. No judgement of any one perticular person.

Just a discussion about the GENERAL situation as my original post was removed for not being in the spirit

Yet another lesbian deletion.

Am really getting fucking sick if this.

The sad thing about all this was the inevitability of it all. There was no way they would NOT include a trans woman in their publication. They just can’t help pandering to those who would be outraged at such an omission.

I mean that men, even when something isn’t about them, still manage to find a way to turn the subject and focus of discussion to them and what they want it to be. It’s all very predictable.

Badwoman no offense but women also do that all the time. Its a human thing.

Um, denial of their exis5bcae by defining words based on gender not sex, trivialisation of their existence, removal of the ability to study class based effects, and in some cases bullying if they are not accepted as potential lesbian sexual partners ( assuming this tread hasn’t wandered so far of track)

. In my opinion it Would not matter at all if lesbians were not a marginalised group because they are female and homosexual( not homogender note) .But they are, so being able to accurately refer to the group is important.

Turn your question round, why would someone want to cause offence and hurt to other people by calling themselves lesbian ? Why can’t transpeople call themselves transwhatever ?

Source for your 20% figure please, as you say, facts are important, so far I only found that over 90% of us federal inmates are Male and in the uk, we have no high security women jails both suggest female violence is less than you quote

There is a “funny” Wikipedia pages which talks about men doing more physical violence whilst womens violence includes gossiping. Most criminal systems do not class gossiping as violence

Trebe, your position seems to be shifting, from I will not accept them as biological women to you are too late to why does it matter anyway to women are violent too. What's up?

I'll accept 10% if you want to be honest that wasn't my point and I cant be bothered its 7am and I've been doing this all night. The question remains, what are they better at without the stereotypes what are men better at and what are women better at.

Sanluca I dont understand the question.

Are you saying I don't date violent trans women? No, just like a small percentage of men who are violent I wouldn't date

Trebe's meanderings are too confusing to follow. And you still didn't answer why you think it's lesbians as a groups fault that some transwomen demand that lesbians need to not be bigoted and learn to love penis.

Oh I dont. Its like saying I should have sex with a man otherwise I'm bigoted. The word bigot would lose all meaning because everyone would be a bigot.

Just read the Pink News thread, it’s brilliant. They have been slaughtered. Posting it again for an update.

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I cant be bothered its 7am and I've been doing this all night.

Maybe you should think about your lifestyle.

Oh I misunderstood why would lesbians wnat penis.

I am not sure it's us being slow. You have pretty much been talking to yourself for the last 12 hours.

Always I'm an insomniac and gender is the issue of the times so I'm trying to learn.

This thread has turned bonkers

If thats true re-read every post I've made. The clever posts I've engaged with the insulting, misandrists or sexists attacks I've returned in kind except without being misogynist or sexist.

I actual apologise for calling you slow I don't usually attack anything but the arguement.

SO you have a choice about what plane you get in. 93% of accidents happen in Male planes and 7% happen in female planes. It appears to be partly the planes design but primarily a result of how the planes have been serviced that leads to this difference in crash rates. But that’s ok, and you would not want to even know if the plane you were boarding was Male or female?

Or would you rather at least fight to have the planes service schedules changed and until that happens you would fight for only females planes to be allowed to fly?

Lets say it is 93 percent of males that get on you cant be that misogynist to be believe they are all violent criminals. According to fbi stats 9million commit offences, thats 3 percent of the population 1000000 are violent crime with less than half of that beingmurder and rape, roughly 100 people get on a plane on average so 0.3 per cent. 0.3% is one third of a person. So I'm not sure what point you're making for me. If you want the fbi stats just ask.

Sorry 0.5% its early in the morning.

If 93% of violent criminals got on it might make sense.