In general, what do you feel about The LGBT Foundation using a 'gender fluid' person to promote lesbian visibility day?

[ChrisPrattAteMyHomework]

No links. No judgement of any one perticular person.

Just a discussion about the GENERAL situation as my original post was removed for not being in the spirit

Yet another lesbian deletion.

Am really getting fucking sick if this.

I saw your original thread, I didn't comment on the poster person because I knew my comment would be deleted.
The only person on a poster for Lesbian visibility day should be born Female of the XX biological kind.
Females with cunts who love and have sex with other cunty Females are Lesbian.
Men with penises who have sex with cunty women are Heterosexual
Fuck this shit.

It's ridiculous and insulting.
There are plenty of amazing lesbians who can be celebrated.
Men have no part in lesbianism
And surely if you are genderfluid you cannot possibly be a lesbian!

The struggles of trans women who love women should —also— not be acknowledged today
Because for once, in this one day, it’s not about them. It’s about female homosexuals, who are same SEX attracted to other females, and how of all the people under the now many faceted rainbow they are still the ones getting most shit from everyone else.
People with penises are not women and they are not lesbians however they choose to identify themselves. Those words are taken and they need to find new ones.

So fucking sick of this shit, and I’m not even a lesbian.

Gah, strikethrough fail

Chris and all.

Utter fuckers, the lot of them.

I'm not a lesbian - but it's an absolute insult to lesbians to have a male fronting the promotion. An insult. A big old 'fuck you' to lesbians everywhere. Except the XY kind obviously.

"A lesbian is a woman who is attracted to other women, so surely someone who is gender fluid can’t be a lesbian as they are not a woman? So they’ll need to find a word that describes a person that is gender fluid that is attracted to women to differentiate between that of a gender fluid person that is attracted to men (which they’ll also need a name for) and a gender fluid person that is attracted to gender fluid persons (which they will also need a name for)"

I have a name for this.

Bollocks.

Meanwhile, over on Twitter, Pink News put up a film of lesbians telling us how proud that are to be visible lesbians, including the inevitable 'lesbian' who is visibly in possision of a Y chromosome.

Something the people commenting below the tweet have clearly noticed.

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1121670998431010816

I've actually CRIED today as a woman who has had many LESBIAN relationships I've felt completely erased and uncomfortable today.

OP I'm so sorry that a day to celebrate you and all (actual) lesbians has become a day of erasure.

I stand with you and celebrate you, your words, and right to choose your partners.

I'm sorry too OP. It's utterly shitty and not in any way "inclusive" of you

And we also have a word for men who have a penis and insist women should accept sex involving that penis when they don't want to.

Well it shouldn’t be someone who is biologically Male, obs. Beginning to guess that is what has actually happened? Just say8ng gender is irrelevent. It should not matter what’s the person wears, what types of work and hobbies they do, or how they tilt their head for photographs.

If the gender fluid persons sex is female and they are exclusively attracted to other women (females) aka are a lesbian then they can crack on
The OP's point is that the LGBT Foundation chose to share, on Lesbian Visibility day, a picture of a person who described themselves as "a genderfluid/genderqueer/non-binary lesbian". The word "woman" appeared nowhere in the post and the biological sex of the person in the photo was indeterminate.
I'm not a lesbian, but the OP had every right to be upset. Lesbians are women and they are perfectly clear about their gender, which is homosexual female, not "non-binary", "genderfluid" or any of the other zillion rainbow labels.

The struggles of trans women who love women should also be acknowledged today. Trans women face daily abuse in the press and specific challenges that other LB women may not experience. Their right to use a dressing room or toilet is being debated online and via news outlets and as fellow women within the LGBTQ+ community we must do our best to support them and use our privilege to speak up for them when it is safe to do so.

Oh lets run that through the universal bullshit translator.

The struggles of trans women who love women heterosexual men who choose to identify as women should also be acknowledged today. Transwomen face daily abuse in the press and specific challenges that other LB women may not experience. Their right The right of male born people to use (women only) dressing rooms or toilets (and invade the privacy, dignity and safety of women who do not believe in genderism and perceive them as males in their spaces where they feel most vulnerable) is (obviously) being debated online and via news outlets (as a massive attempted infringement of women's rights, their protections in law and an attempt by men based on their male entitlement to redefine women to their own benefit against the consent and interests of a huge number of the population) and as fellow women women who don't want to be the target of abuse, experience death and rape threats or be excluded within from the LGBTQ+ community we must do our best to support them these males and use our privilege to speak up for them when it is safe to do so likely that no one will do anything mean like point out that other people have rights too.

What's wrong with being bisexual? Or even pansexual if you want a special name?

Why steal and warp another's name.

If, as a biological woman, I suddenly decided I identify as a transwoman and referred to myself as such there would be uproar.

I'm so sorry that a day to celebrate you and all (actual) lesbians has become a day of erasure.

Lets face it, all these 'days' to 'celebrate' about 'visibility' have all become sentimentalised, insincere, meaningless and gesture politics wankery. Its social justice as packaged by Hallmark.

Perfect translation, Michelle.

Because they think they should have everything, Chris. Pure entitlement.

webuiltciscity why pick up on my post? I am agreeing with the OP
I am saying, just because they don’t have descriptive names of their own, doesn’t mean they can claim to be something else!

It's gaslighting.

It's misogyny.

I'm so sorry men are going this to you.

Any comments I make will be deleted. Put it this way, I was not best pleased.

the struggles of transwomen who love women well didn’t we have a trans day? I mean I realise it must be really hard to find a partner, but trying to force women to love them is doomed to failure as well as being incredibly sexist.

NotTheDuchess, I think you've misread that- I don't think that your words were being called "bollocks".

It must be drug taking. Only way this shite can be real,

It’s shitty Chris. That lesbians cannot have their own day of visibility without the trans agenda being shoved down everyone’s throat is sickening. Sorry you”ve had a crap day.

I made a point of going out and buying a small gift and card for the teenage lesbian who lives across the road from me. I have a card waiting for my lesbian daughter from one of the wonderful lesbian activists on Twitter.

Lesbian identities should be celebrated. I hope, in time, that more and more women will stand up and say so and these men, who are determined to appropriate every fucking thing will be pushed aside.

MN, I don’t normally comment on your moderation as I understand the current situation is difficult. But this is a site for women, and this is a day that should be set aside for women. In the circumstances, anger is natural. The idea that the women who are being displaced shouldn’t be able to express that for fear of upsetting men is very wrong.