Dads to be are 2nd class citizens on the labour ward because they don't get offered a cup of tea...

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How dare he not be the centre of attention while his wife is giving birth?

Thankfully most of the other men on the forum are quick enough to tell him he's a knob.

I know. Those poor, beleaguered men. What trials they face.

Makes you wonder how they even made it to adulthood doesnt it.

I think most people are intelligent enough to realise that of course people don't mean all men, all dads etc.

Just like when I'm having a rant about a section of society I obviously don't mean them all.

If only someone looked after them properly and bought them cups of tea.

All maternity wards should have a 'for male visitors only' tea and coffee menu and staff (women, of course) should bake biscuits on demand, for the men.
Also, foot stools, warm slippers, and cushions for male visitors only.

I've seen that happen, MrsC, then it runs out and they're demanding food. I'm agog at the expectation staff are there to make non-patients hot drinks or make non-patients feel 'welcome'.

But then, any HCP who's worked in maternity can spin your head with tales of 'partners' (and no, they're not all the fathers of the baby) who take the mother's bed and food, stink out and hog the patient bathroom, demand sex/have sex in the ward, take the chairs of other patients, intimidate and harass other patients, all sorts.

as you all have such a low opinion of men I'm confused as to why you chose to have children with them

Because scientists haven’t yet developed a way to make babies without them.

For constantly being near death, LCM has loads of spare faculty for being very observant simultaneously. Whilst in with DD1 one time, we had a room across from the nurse's station. They were playing Michael Buble one night. Now that crosses the line!

Because scientists haven’t yet developed a way to make babies without them.

Hmm. Nice attitude. If that is really how you feel surely it means that you don't have children?

For constantly being near death, LCM has loads of spare faculty for being very observant simultaneously.
Really? What have I observed?

Pantry visitors and what they do in there. All sorts. But I'm sure you'll tell us more.

Sperm donors! There's one woman on here who is a lesbian. She is pregnant and the child will have two mums.

Pantry visitors and what they do in there.

As I said, that was when I was in hospital a couple of weeks ago, not 20 years ago having a baby.

Sperm donors!

And who are these sperm donors? Presumably men (do correct me if I am wrong). If you hate men why have anything to do with them?

LCM, oh, do tell us all about your experiences in the pantry, dear.

I wish my ward had a pantry

Some people will just always have something to complain about I guess, and just don't know when to wind their necks in. Melts. Is a certain poster really going on and on about stuff that happened 30 years ago..? Dear lord.

Vending machines on all floors in all hospitals is an excellent idea btw, but selfish people like the man in the op, would still be demanding a nurse go for them, or that they shouldn't have to use such when there's a nurse stood "doing nothing" 10 feet away...

I love the thread. It is fwr in a nutshell. Fifteen pages and counting. The perfect excuse to lay into 'menasaclass', all extrapolated from the behaviour of one self-absorbed knobhead. Bravo ladies, bravo.

Is a certain poster really going on and on about stuff that happened 30 years ago..? Dear lord.

No not 30 years ago. And sorry if I'm not over it but you know some things affect us forever and I am going into hospital tomorrow for a cardiac procedure needed because of what happened too me 25 years ago. So, you know, maybe I'm not "over it" because it isn't yet over?

We're allowed to discuss men (and a few such women) who act like knobheads, without meaning "all" men? Or should we all just shut the fuck up, and go back to our kitchens/bedrooms where we belong?

Mouse maybe you need to step back from this thread? It's clearly affecting you, you made some good points, but now it feels like you're trying to make people feel sorry for you, so they won't disagree with you. This was a thread about a shocking example of male entitlement, and you've twisted it into something else? You had two good outcomes, have you considered that maybe other people on the thread might have had as bad a time as you, or worse? You aren't the only woman here to have had a hard labour?

Anyways, good luck with your issues/surgery

You can talk about whatever you want. As can I. And if I came across a group of men ripping into women generally because one woman had done something dumb or thoughtless or had been a little too self-absorbed, then I'd think that they had a problem with the opposite sex, that they were misogynists, and that they should take a good, long look at themselves and their attitudes towards women. And don't give me that 'not all men' bullshit. You'd be (rightly) furious if this was written from the opposite perspective.

If you hate men why have anything to do with them?

Um, I don't.

It couldn't be written from the opposite perspective though? Men can't give birth? Men are often present at a birth for the babies sake, and not the woman's, sometimes allowed to stay 24/7 for the duration of the womans stay.

When women act like the man in the op, of course they should be criticised. But have there been threads and threads over the years about women acting like this when a male partner goes for a surgery? Demanding tea while dp gets a vasectomy etc?