The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?

[Macareaux]

Oh wise and knowledgeable women of Mumsnet I don't think the EA2010 does this at all does it? I'm not 100% certain so don't want to wade in.

Maybe the NSPCC has completely forgotten its own recent history?
In the 1990s it went through an obsession with satanic ritual abuse - a belief that there were cults all over the world sexually abusing children in the worship of Satan. It was all utter guff, mainly transportered from the USA, but the NSPCC trained social workers all over the country to spot the signs.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/lingering-scandal-of-rochdale-satanic-abuse-1-2601249/amp

Children all over the country were removed from their parents as the social workers were in the grip of this insanity.

The NSPCC seem unable (or unwilling) to learn from their own mistakes and have now jumped on (indeed pushing) the trans cult.

The NSPCC is a toxic charity and I wouldn’t give them a penny.

Oh, ChickenonaMug. You write so powerfully. Your argument would be impossible to deny if only the NSPCC actually gave a shit and listened. They have lost all credibility.

I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes. You total 🌟

I’d put money on almost no current employees being aware of that.

What Prawn said.

I think maybe we need to discover those MPs who are not in thrall to Stonewall and contact them instead. Contacting MPs who are gay males is hopeless.

Chicken, I can only echo what others have said. I’m sorry for what happened to you and I’m sorry and angry that you have to watch this NSPCC betrayal unfolding in front of our eyes.

We’re listening ChickenonaMug. And we’re everywhere, we’re over 50% of the population. We’re listening to you and learning and we will use that to protect children even if the organisations that should be doing so, don’t.

I think maybe we need to discover those MPs who are not in thrall to Stonewall and contact them instead. Contacting MPs who are gay males is hopeless.

I agree. I think we need to start working on presenting all the dots we've joined in a coherent fashion, and then present it to every mp and journalists that we think is likely to give a damn. Off the top of my head I can only think of David Davies for mps, but I reckon a lot of journalists would be happy to break open this shit show.

It may be worth contacting Claude Knight or other members of the Lords and Commons Family and Child Protection Group?

Claude Knights is a safeguarding expert who worked for 15 years as head of Kidscape now Chair of Anti Bullying Alliance:
(extract)
"In January 2017 Claude stood down from her post as CEO of Kidscape to be an independent advocate for, and consultant on, anti-bullying and family and child protection issues as well as to obtain a greater work-life balance. In addition, she is a trustee of The 401 Foundation, (created by Ben Smith, the renowned marathon runner), the purpose of which is to offer grants of between £3000 and £5000 to projects, organisations and individuals looking to build confidence and self-esteem whilst also tackling mental health and self-development issues.

She is a member of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Bullying and of the Lords and Commons Family and Child Protection Group. In addition, Claude is a member of the British Psychological Society and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, and she retains an active relationship with the media." (continues)
www.anti-bullyingalliance.org.uk/aba-our-work/our-advisory-group-0/claude-knights-chair-aba

Last year she commented publically on sex offenders who transition and are afforded the opportunity to change their name and hide their history as a consequence & recent case of "Christopher Noble, 32, transitioned to Christyl Knight while behind bars for keeping a stash of over 4,000 vile pictures and videos of kids as young as six months old"

“Allowing these individuals to hide a secret past is a dangerous practice.”
“Anyone who’s fuelled the vile trade in indecent images of children and therefore contributed to their sexual abuse should not be allowed to change their name.”

Source: www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/

There are other MPs who have spoken out/are sympathetic.

Worryingly I’m loath to list them here, in case I’m setting them up as targets for TRA’s.

I really am so worried about the impact that all this will have on girls and young women who have been sexually abused. There is a direct conflict of needs and rights that needs addressing and the NSPCC really should have been the ones with the understanding and ability to address it. Because they are not acknowledging the issue then it means that all the other organisations think that if the NSPCC aren't acknowledging an issue, then they do need to try and understand or address the issue either.

The NSPCC really are completely failing abused girls.

There also seems an additional failure in not recognising that there is a significant number of girls who have been sexually abused & identify as trans.
The denial of the possibility of a link & insistance on affirmation only policies risks additional harm to this cohort of vulnerable girls.

Charities such as NSPCC & Social Care who have been trained/lobbied by TRAs who demonstrate a failure to understand Safeguarding & Child Protection principles as well as denial of the complex possible impact of abuse on girls.
see thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

from current thread discussing Mermaids Charity latest statement & Safeguarding concerns:

PencilsInSpace Sat 06-Apr-19 14:17:12 wrote:

"From part 2 of the mermaids training transcript:

docs.google.com/document/d/1NDOMlo2aEpBl2ySfKdEWCb1H94tZciKiqUffjH1ku0Y/edit

So over the years we’ve done a lot of work with NSPCC, Childline and particularly, the past like 3-5 years, online has become even more valuable because 40% of the young people who we support online cannot be ‘out’ at home...for various reasons, so, you know, and sometimes school may be the only place they can be themselves. So something you may be aware is that school may be supporting the child and they may be known as a pronoun in school and the parents don’t know about it because they can’t be ‘out’ at home. If the parents find out, it can become a safeguarding issue, so you need to be very careful about when you are talking about your cases.

...

We have two private forums – one for parents and carers and one for teens because we recognise that teens talk with their thumbs. So they can go on that from 12+ and it’s moderated and safeguarded so it’s a nice safe space for them to share, ask questions.

Part 1 of the transcript is here:

docs.google.com/document/d/1aeFV0T6j4PXvm1xZBS_50oSJYV-_gO8YMoFjKjNA_9Y/edit

Both the transcripts have links to the original audio files."

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3552288-Mermaids-new-statement

In the 1990s it went through an obsession with satanic ritual abuse - a belief that there were cults all over the world sexually abusing children in the worship of Satan. It was all utter guff, mainly transportered from the USA, but the NSPCC trained social workers all over the country to spot the signs.

Aaaaah, The Bottom Inspectors, as Viz called them, with their Reflex Anal Dilation Test.

So you stick your finger up a child's rectum to see if there's evidence of what you've just done.

Brilliant

I really am so worried about the impact that all this will have on girls and young women who have been sexually abused. There is a direct conflict of needs and rights that needs addressing and the NSPCC really should have been the ones with the understanding and ability to address it. Because they are not acknowledging the issue then it means that all the other organisations think that if the NSPCC aren't acknowledging an issue, then they do need to try and understand or address the issue either.

Recent National Review article - The ‘Trans’ Child as Experimental Guinea
by Madeleine Kearns

(extract)
"Parents who are unimpressed by transgender theory, or who suspect there are other reasons for their child’s gender dysphoria, may not have a choice in the matter. Earlier this year the Daily Mail reported that a British teenage boy with autism had been taken into care because his parents refused to treat him as a girl. And I spoke to the father of Sofia (not her real name), a 15-year-old girl living in Spain. “Our daughter,” he told me,

declared she was a boy when an older boyfriend came on the scene. We found violent and misogynistic pornography on her phone. Later we found out that at least two of this boy’s ex-girlfriends had had double mastectomies. . . . He seemed obsessed with girls getting their breasts cut off [and] advertised on social media where girls could get their breasts removed in Spain. . . . He [the boyfriend] then reported us to the police, . . . but when Sofia threatened suicide, social workers were brought in to help reconcile our family. The social workers turned out to be transgender activists. Now Sofia has been taken into state custody, where she plans to undergo sex-change treatments." (continues)

www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/04/22/the-trans-child-as-experimental-guinea-pig/

It is starting to be seriously concerning, charities such as NSPCC parroting TRA lies and making out that the law is the opposite of what it is, especially given the reach NSPCC have. Many people will believe them without question, as its the NSPCC!

This goes way too deep. Its unsettling and I wodner quite how long the behind the scenes grooming has gone on, before NSPCC, fawcett society, girl guides..and so on capitulated. It has got to be years, surely..

It is starting to be seriously concerning, charities such as NSPCC parroting TRA lies and making out that the law is the opposite of what it is, especially given the reach NSPCC have. Many people will believe them without question, as its the NSPCC!

See also St Mungos specialist single-sex support service & hostel for women who are homeless which admits male transpeople who identify as women, including a male with previous convictions for domestic abuse:

Mail on Sunday article by Julie Bindel & Sanchez Manning today:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894599/When-man-called-Mark-locked-threatening-kill-mother-child.html

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3553104-Not-women-only-shelters

The article identifies the links with Stonewall & St Mungos
A key factor in the development of this single sex service was recognition of the significant contributory role abuse/violence played in the lives of the women who are homeless.

We have two private forums – one for parents and carers and one for teens because we recognise that teens talk with their thumbs. So they can go on that from 12+ and it’s moderated and safeguarded so it’s a nice safe space for them to share, ask questions.

Worth noting the amount of prove (proof of addresses, passport etc) the charity require to admit you to those forums.

I understand there's a level of protection of the children; at the same time there's no transparency at all. An echo chamber of the highest level.

If social media sights such as Instagram are now to be aware of how teens share damaging ideas and images, surely mermaids need to recognise this.

The Tavistock wouldn't have such a forum. It would be unethical.

No one has anyway of knowing who else is in those forums or what the conversations are about from a neutral safeguarding POV.

Red flags 🚩

important current thread with links to four Times articles highlighting serious Safeguarding & Duty of Care issues concerning the treatment of children questioning their gender identity issues. The roles played by GIDS Tavistock, Mermaids, GIRES & Gendered Intelligence are criticised by medical professionals:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3553935-Times-article-calls-to-end-transgender-experiment-on-children

NSPCC should be taking these Safeguarding issues very seriously given the influence the criticised Trans lobby organisations & charities seem to have had on its policies

NSPCC should be taking these Safeguarding issues very seriously given the influence the criticised Trans lobby organisations & charities seem to have had on its policies

From this morning's standard briefing

www.standard.co.uk/news/world/your-morning-briefing-what-you-should-know-for-monday-april-8-a4111541.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Social media companies to be forced to protect users from harmful content
Senior managers at social media companies will be personally liable if users are not protected from harmful content, according to a long-awaited Government white paper.

The joint proposal on online harms says a regulator will be appointed to ensure internet firms meet their responsibilities, which will be outlined in a mandatory duty of care.

The regulator will have the power to issue substantial fines, block access to sites and potentially impose liability on individual members of senior management, the proposal says.

NSPCC chief executive Peter Wanless welcome the scheme, saying it would make the UK a world pioneer in protecting children online.

About that Peter... How does this fit with Mermaids and the revelations in today Times?

Another clinician described how youngsters entered his room enthusing about Alex Bertie, a transgender YouTuber, and My Life: I Am Leo, a documentary about a transgender teen broadcast in a teatime slot on CBBC.

“These are very simplified stories about how easy it would be to transition into being trans. . . that transition is a solution to feeling shit. That is very appealing to lots of teenagers,” the first male clinician said. I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger and I was there to protect them from the service, from the inside.”

That sure is a lot of cognitive dissonance going on there.

Well when 'I am Leo' is actually in lesson plan schools may choose to use in lessons in primary schools, what hope to the clinicians at the Tavistock have in being able to do their job properly?

From No Outsiders school pack (and yes, much of it is brilliant; just need to point out the part that's really not.)

equalitiesplans.blogspot.com/2016/10/transgender-awareness-ks2-3-10000.html

Lidl are supporting the NSPCC this Easter with some special eggs. They've donated £1m to help children to 'speak out, stay safe' unless of course they're a girl who is disturbed at potentially sharing a changing room with a boy in which case she should just stfu

Well when 'I am Leo' is actually in lesson plan schools may choose to use in lessons in primary schools, what hope to the clinicians at the Tavistock have in being able to do their job properly?

Times today, 'It feels like conversion therapy for gay children, say clinicians
Ex-NHS staff fear that homophobia is driving a surge in ‘transgender’ young people'

(extract)
"Another clinician described how youngsters entered his room enthusing about Alex Bertie, a transgender YouTuber, and My Life: I Am Leo, a documentary about a transgender teen broadcast in a teatime slot on CBBC.

“These are very simplified stories about how easy it would be to transition into being trans. . . that transition is a solution to feeling shit. That is very appealing to lots of teenagers,” the first male clinician said. I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger and I was there to protect them from the service, from the inside.” (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2?wgu=270525_54264_15546789493976_b91f697dcf&wgexpiry=1562454949&utm_source=planit&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=22278

'No Outsiders' program is focussed on the EA therefore serious whistleblown concerns by medical professionals about denial/conversion of children's lesbian and gay emerging sexuality should be taken very seriously by both the providers of the scheme of work, all schools & the Dept of Education.

Chicken i cried reading your post, what is happening to all these organisations that we trusted to protect children ?
Do you feel you could name your MP or would that be outing ?

^^This goes way too deep. Its unsettling and I wodner quite how long the behind the scenes grooming has gone on, before NSPCC, fawcett society, girl guides..and so on capitulated. It has got to be years, surely..

If you think this is in any way motivated by easing access to children read this whole thread. Warning CSA, not explicit.
twitter.com/MarkWatts_1/status/1113494365203202048