The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?

[Macareaux]

Oh wise and knowledgeable women of Mumsnet I don't think the EA2010 does this at all does it? I'm not 100% certain so don't want to wade in.

So, this seems to mean that, within the school environment, the legal position on harassment relates exclusively to disability, race and sex as the protected characteristics because of their biological / physical nature.

Jesus. Thank you again jacky. Yes, what are they doing in our schools?!

JackyHolyoake

I'm attending school safeguarding training soon; I'm looking forward to clarifying some things from that POV.

It would be great if you could report back - as far as you feel able without outing yourself - after this.

I know there's absolutely a need to cover this in today's world. There really is. The kids talk about it. It's on tv. It's in the internet.

What's missing is clarification from above.

I'm a teacher and believe me in schools we are absolutely certain we are clear about what we write on posters and displays is correct, even in some situations specific fonts etc. for accessibility and clarity of understanding for the children.

YY I have also worked in schools & with vulnerable adults.
Accessibility is a key issue which seems not to occur to many of those promoting trans-ideology /queer theory

(which rather speaks volumes)

teawamutu I got exactly the same response. I hope the reason for the stock response is that they were inundated with complaints.

I will try; from memory though it really is more about csa, fgm, procedure, duty of care etc. We appear to have a rolling programme and I need the most recent up to date stuff that I've missed while on maternity.

It may be difficult to ask too many overt questions if I'm honest.

The thing is, as far as my lea is concerned, we are absolutely staunchly sex separated toilets and changing in practice. But I'm in a primary school so I don't know if anything has changed in local secondaries.

Thanks hipster.

I've composed a few letters to him in my head occasionally. I may have to attempt biting the bullet. The thing is I really don't think he'll have thought it's an issue.

If Moffat can’t see why it’s an issue (and I think it’s been pointed out to him on twitter) then he’s wholly unsuited to being a Headteacher, let alone training others.

There is enough that is incorrect with the scheme of work for it to be recalled for editing & consideration surely?

As Sex is 1 of 9 protected characteristics in Eq Act there is likely 10% of resources which may need evaluating?

I don't know if he does or not.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

When I think of previous safeguarding training, it's so obvious sex is not gender identity and separate toilets and changing is needed that I honestly don't think we've ever had to query that one. Separate third spaces if needed but we've had to do that for other children, for different protected characteristics. Eg disability (help with toileting) or religion.

It would be great if you could report back - as far as you feel able without outing yourself - after this

It's not me who works in a school .. it is another in this thread.

*There is enough that is incorrect with the scheme of work for it to be recalled for editing & consideration surely?

As Sex is 1 of 9 protected characteristics in Eq Act there is likely 10% of resources which may need evaluating?*

Could not agree more. Surely there are some materials which are actually correct that schools could be using?

I agree too.

However it can only happen if he understands the domino effect mixing up the language has had.

I know of no official guidance that has to be followed in schools as yet, and I'm not entirely sure as yet what's in the SRE guidance to be used from September (I haven't checked recently) though Jacky has posted very interesting points below.

What is leaving me stunned here is that the Trans Lobby [Stonewalll, Allsorts, Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence et al] has specifically used the issue of harassment [bullying] of children in schools to push their agenda about transgenderism when the Equality Act 2010 specifically states that this is not applicable.

The Trans Lobby has groomed our schools and all organisations that work with children that the Equality Act 2010 requires them to comply with their transgender agenda when, quite clearly, there is no such legal requirement.

Our schools and all other children's organisations have been misled to an alarming degree .. although they could have taken independent legal advice to confirm or otherwise what they were being told.

If you were going to explicitly teach the language of the EA to primary children you would be likely to change the language. And you might use gender identity as a way to explain it. As it's quite a lot for young children to take in.

JackyHolyoake

And the liability is going to be on the organisations that took the bad advice, not those that gave it.

And you might use gender identity as a way to explain it.

But how can you talk about gender identity to children without simply talking about gender stereotypes? In fact, what is gender identity, other than gender stereotypes?

The only 'definitions' of gender identity I've come across are either stereotypes, or a 'feeling'. And if you start teaching very young children that they can 'feel' like a boy or a girl and that's what they are, or that being gender non-conforming makes them the opposite sex, then you'll get a huge number of 'trans' kids.

Which is, of course, what the genderists want.

They could have done, but if I'm honest the new curriculum that Gove shoved under our faces brought in caused a lot of hoo har and reorganisation that schools have been back peddling, flapping around, grabbing what new schemes of work popped up when they could. Not to mention cuts etc.

Schools won't all use the pack as he's written it and will decide what's appropriate.

However he delivers training that takes a day. We don't know what 'facts' he states. We can guess the language he uses from the book and posters.

This has been created in the absence of other teaching materials, and by a teacher it's better structured than perhaps things by other charities. It was once suggested to me that I could write a scheme of work and sell it as a book in my area of expertise. (I cba.)

Exactly oldcrone.

It's all sexist bs.

Unless you're believing that 'gender identity' = sex and if there's an incongruence it needs fixing...,

Unless he means, "I'm a boy but I like to do traditionally girl stuff" and so the children are taught not to pick on the boy because of it, as obviously.

The Trans Lobby has groomed our schools and all organisations that work with children that the Equality Act 2010 requires them to comply with their transgender agenda when, quite clearly, there is no such legal requirement.

When schools implement these transgender 'toolkits', they should be equality impact assessed, either by the schools themselves or by the LEA. Is there any evidence that this has been done? Because any such assessment (properly done) would clearly show the conflicts with the rights of girls.

Nobody equality impacts any of this stuff. If they did, the competing rights and evident dangers to specific groups would be apparent.

That's why so many trans initiatives are accompanied by threats and intimidation - (transphobia, literal violence, eradicating identity and on and on...). It ensures that people don't stand back and evaluate what is being implemented. As soon as you ask questions, the inequities and dangers to some become apparent and this must be silenced.

I'm hovering over amazon prime atm.

Fucking expensive though.

But the description is

"There is an introductory chapter explaining the legal framework behind the resource, quoting Ofsted and the DfE. A second chapter focuses on creating the whole school ethos through assemblies, school displays and after school clubs. A third chapter focuses on engaging parents."

I want to be clear. I think the premise of the book is excellent. Using books as a springboard is a great way to teach difference. I only have concerns about the way the 'T' is approached (from the POV of teaching assigned sex at birth and that you can 'easily' change sex - I am Leo is referenced in one lesson online, also see recent Tavistock report in Times where children apparently enthused about the programme to clinicians and expected to be granted the opportunity to change sex) and the way sex as a class, a protected characteristic appears to be side stepped. That this blurs and erodes girls sex based rights.

This Council have used it as a part of a wider diversity initiative. When viewed like this and used like this I can see the value for PC such as race, religion, ability.

Note that the book changes disability to ability which is great imo.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/fight-against-extremism-ramped-up-14415867

Correction; it changes disability to ability in the introduction. It retains disability in the posters etc. But actually, when I think about it, this is another semantic that matters in law.