Not women only shelters.....

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Sorry for the fail link but just read this and I find it unbelievable that people still don't see the issue with this. Words fail me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894599/When-man-called-Mark-locked-threatening-kill-mother-child.html

Another charity, Women's Aid, which oversees 300 shelters managed by smaller charities, also said its policy is to allow transgender women to live at the refuges, regardless of whether they have undergone sex-change treatments.

I had no idea that WA had also drunk the KoolAid!

That whole piece is utterly depressing! Stonewall is so monolithic, it is madness!

Just came to post this.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894599/When-man-called-Mark-locked-threatening-kill-mother-child.html

Excellent, really well researched article. Clearly setting out that Stonewall are the problem and no one gives a shit about women.

Thank you once again Sanchez and Julie

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894599/When-man-called-Mark-locked-threatening-kill-mother-child.html

This clicky link will take you to a world of madness.

This should always be posted on WA threads
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3160220-to-write-to-Women-s-Aid-and-ask-you-to-do-the-same-if-you-value-their-services?pg=1&order=

Sorry, crossed.

Anyway, it's great to see predators being supported by the authorities to be their "authentic selves"

All the quotes near the end are so depressing.

Stonewall is the leading lesbian, gay and transgender rights charity, and has championed the rights of transgender women to access women's refuges.
Last year, the organisation interviewed managers from 15 organisations that provide shelters for female victims of domestic abuse and sexual violence across UK.
Its report – Supporting Trans Women In Domestic And Sexual Violence Services – revealed the 'majority of participants have supported trans women in their women-only services before… many have been doing this for some time.'
In its anonymised report, one shelter manager stated: 'If we have a client who wants to come in that identifies as female, they can come into our refuge or any part of our service.'
Another manager said: 'We are very clear from the start that we do have transgender [women] and women of different faiths and cultures and beliefs through our door constantly.'
Another said: 'We wouldn't exclude somebody from any of our existing services based on the fact that they were transgender.'
Another interviewee added: 'We would never ask for evidence of someone's sex or gender because we're open to women on a self-identifying basis.'
Women's Aid also confirmed that transgender women are living in women-only refuges.
A spokeswoman said: 'We are of the view that we want all survivors to get the support that they need.'
Last July, its chief executive Katie Ghose said: 'Women-only spaces provide a physically and emotionally safe environment that is vital to survivors' safety and recovery after experiencing domestic and sexual abuse.
'Women's Aid member services assess every survivor, including trans women, on a case by case basis in order to best respond to their needs. Our member services tell us that they are already supporting trans women in accordance with the Equality Act in refuges.'

Stonewall is populated by men who devise and enact schemes to groom our public services and institutions to their agenda, which is ultimately all about men's sexual behaviours.

There is going to be utter outrage at breakfast tables across the country today.

Do stonewall run shelters themselves?

They could conceivably.

They could put their (huge amounts of) money where their mouth is.

Maybe open the world's first trans-refuge, see how that goes.

Let's hope the funders think again...but they haven't seen fit to do so so far. I would not donate to Womens Aid while this is their policy.

Yet another organisation incorrectly applying the Equality Act.

"Another manager said: 'We are very clear from the start that we do have transgender [women] and women of different faiths and cultures and beliefs through our door constantly."

Why do these people always have to imply that women consist of different types. There's men and women, no separate sub species.

Makes my blood boil.

Stonewall is an anti-women activist organisation which has no respect for the rights of women and girls. It actively campaigned to remove all the rights of women and girls enshrined in the Equality Act 2010.

If you come across one of Stonewall's "Top 100" employers or an employer displaying any other Stonewall award you can be sure it is an organisation that is anti-women and does not respect women's rights..

Similarly schools that have received awards from Stonewall are anti-girls and do not respect girls' rights.

People who have received awards from Stonewall are anti-females and have no respect for the rights of women and girls.

Our member services tell us that they are already supporting trans women in accordance with the Equality Act in refuges.'

The guidance notes for the EA specifically say it is a reasonable use of the exemption to offer a different service to MTF trans people and that they can insist it's women only.

But they don't actually want to do they?

That piece says, quite specifically, that the management responded. I remember there being a few threads here from the women who work in the shelters, all saying that they weren't asked. The only people asked were those looking for the public acclaim, the pat on the back from Stonewall.

It’s not going to cause the outrage you think, if most readers are like my parents and assume that transgender woman means a woman who has now declared herself male.

Fair Play for Women also did a report:

https://fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/FPFWreportt_19SEPT2018.pdf

People who have received awards from Stonewall are anti-females and have no respect for the rights of women and girls

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This

Stonewall are fast becoming as malignant as PIE.

Did you notice it was the man in senior management of St Mungos who decreed transwomen were women.

According to the source, the policy of allowing transgender women into the women-only hostel started in 2016 and was driven by Simon Hughes, St Mungo's regional director for East London.

I know several organisations that did not take part in the Stonewall research for fear that if they spoke openly they could face a public campaign against them or because they were worried about whether their views would be properly reflected. It is very misleading of Stonewall to claim that their report reflects the views of the Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) sector, when most organisations did not take part.” Professional C

Addis said the manager of the women's refuge was 'very nice' and allowed her to 'watch telly with girls,' adding: 'I got on with the girls. They classed me as a female.

Uh, the "girls" are socialised to be polite, mate...

Buzzbobbly you’d hope so but I do worry sometimes that women who’ve escaped DV aren’t really afforded enough respect and empathy. I hope this great article will at least deliver a jolt

Stonewall: see extract from its submission to Women & Equalities Select Committee Inquiry on Transgender Equality to learn how deeply anti-women is this organisation:

"A review of the Equality Act 2010 to include ‘gender identity’ rather than ‘gender reassignment’ as a protected characteristic and to remove exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces ”.

womansplaceuk.org/references-to-removal-of-single-sex-exemptions/

Stonewall is anti-women. It has no respect for women or their right to safety, wellbeing, privacy or dignity.

"According to the source, the policy of allowing transgender women into the women-only hostel started in 2016 and was driven by Simon Hughes, St Mungo's regional director for East London".

Oh look. A man. Another fucking man making decisions on women-only spaces.

Is this another example of "institutional capture"?

"A spokesman said: 'St Mungo's is a trans inclusive organisation recognised by Stonewall as a top trans employer'."

That is a hard hitting article that pulls no punches.

So just say you are a woman then you are in

Unfucking believable