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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If Glinner is such an 'ally' why is he working only with white men?

304 replies

Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 12:51

I'm a GC feminist, but I do find all the fawning around Graham Linehan to be pathetic. He's barely given a peep about women's rights in the past, and suddenly he's jumped on the anti-TRA bandwagon, centering himself in what is and should a women-led movement (i.e. feminism).
The last straw for me is seeing fellow feminists fawn over this tweet - he posits himself as an ally, yet shows 0 interest in opening up the world of comedy beyond the thoughts of white men.

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1111351941374922752

A heterosexual man being critical of transgenderism =! feminism

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 13:16

Has anyone actually sked if Richard Ayoade is a man?

nauticant · 29/03/2019 13:16

My choice is to decide to oppose something because I think it's wrong, and then look who is also opposing it, rather than deciding on how I want "my side to look" and then let that guide my views.

GirlDownUnder · 29/03/2019 13:16

Hi Plinytheprettier you seem a fairly new name, and thanks for trying to look out for me / us. Much appreciated, Cos it’s Friday and my brain gets sleepy please help me... maybe cos I’m old but you started with

why is he working only with white men?’

And ended with
Oh FFS I didn't mean he only works with white men!

Can you explain?

Cheers muchly

AdultHuman · 29/03/2019 13:17

The Pope is the subject matter of the play and the Pope is part of the Roman Catholic church. Woman and transmen can't be ordained as Priests, Bishops, Cardinals or a Pope.

GirlDownUnder · 29/03/2019 13:18

Hahahahaha
Clearly slow and tired - sorry for all the cross posts Brew

SharkBastard · 29/03/2019 13:19

Is that you Anthony Watson Grin

Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 13:20

What I meant was in this tweet it implied that his current project was led by white men. I can see why that was unclear. I am not new to mn, I’ve posted to this very board several time.

And I won’t stop criticising any man for any reason if they are perpetuating patriarchy. I’m glad he supports the protection of women only spaces, but it frustrates that he seems to get more attention then women who say the same as him

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howlsmovingcastle84 · 29/03/2019 13:21

Ensuring that GNC males don't colonise womanhood is not the be all and end all of women's liberation
I disagree.

Pretty sure Katherine Parkinson (the head of the IT department in the IT Crowd) is a woman

Funny this thread appeared today....

Knicknackpaddyflak · 29/03/2019 13:21

Ooh look it's dividing and conquering attempt #379 Grin

There are no 'allies' mate. No sides. No membership badges. That word is one specific to a political movement. Nothing but pissed off women here.

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 29/03/2019 13:21

FYI Easter hols started in my region today... just sayin’...

GirlDownUnder · 29/03/2019 13:23

SharkBastard, how are you?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 29/03/2019 13:24

Ensuring that GNC males don't colonise womanhood is not the be all and end all of women's liberation

Oh what a giveaway.

Yes OP, it really is.

Datun · 29/03/2019 13:25

I’m glad he supports the protection of women only spaces, but it frustrates that he seems to get more attention then women who say the same as him

Well perhaps say that - instead of accusing him of not working with black people and saying that women supporting him are fawning and pathetic!!

nauticant · 29/03/2019 13:25

What I meant was in this tweet it implied that his current project was led by white men.

Are we supposed to view this as some kind of crime?

Doyoumind · 29/03/2019 13:26

The majority of glinner's Twitter content is him retweeting or drawing attention to tweets and content from women. He has the ability to reach a larger audience than many of those individuals.

GirlDownUnder · 29/03/2019 13:26

Ummm ...was in this tweet it implied that his current project was led by white men umm how?

Are you basing this on a picture?

Bluestitch · 29/03/2019 13:28

What I meant was in this tweet it implied that his current project was led by white men.

Yes his current project is the Ted Musical so those pictured were involved in the original Father Ted. One of them is the co-creator, another of them did the original music. Or are you saying he shouldn't have worked with them 25 years ago so this didn't crop up?

nauticant · 29/03/2019 13:30

This thread is making me think of this:

A must-watch for anyone worried about the rise of authoritarianism on the Left.

StephsCaddy · 29/03/2019 13:32

Plinytheprettier - I’d ask for this to be deleted if I were you. I’m cringing on your behalf.

NappyDisco · 29/03/2019 13:33

And I won’t stop criticising any man for any reason if they are perpetuating patriarchy. I’m glad he supports the protection of women only spaces, but it frustrates that he seems to get more attention then women who say the same as him

He is in the news precisely because he is famous. Fake McNotALawyer chose him to hassle for this reason. He hasn't chosen to centre himself. He has been centred because he has been attacked (due to being famous).

They can go after Bindel but she's been tefblocked by everyone and no one woukd see it. She also likely doesnt have the money he has to make suing for fun worthwhile.

How do you think he should be doing this?

SharkBastard · 29/03/2019 13:33

I'm good, thank you for asking. Some days easier than others, but I'm made of stern stuff!

NappyDisco · 29/03/2019 13:35

Janice Turner also gets a lot of atte tion. And JK Rowling everytime she has a middle aged moment and gives herself away.

Robert Webb seemed promising but seems to have shutup when he realised it was going to be hardwork, and ironically not a lot of fawning.

nauticant · 29/03/2019 13:36

Glad to hear you're bearing up SharkBastard.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 13:42

So just to get this straight, you want Graham Linehan to pretend the people who made Father Ted 30 years ago were not white men?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 13:42

How do you know they are men?