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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This Morning and Katie Yeomans

139 replies

TheGodmother · 20/03/2019 09:09

Have a look at the comments on their Facebook page! Trans peak?

www.facebook.com/81985202121/posts/10157319027642122?sfns=mo

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Whatisthisfuckery · 20/03/2019 12:29

I’ve just read the comments and facebook. If validation is what Katie was after then I’m afraid Katie won’t like what Katie sees.

And correctly identifying someone’s sex does not breach the Equality Act, GRC or not.

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 20/03/2019 12:36

My favourite MN-acceptable comment was "It’s Southern Rail. Just be thankful you managed to get on a train AT ALL!!!!"

CaptainMarvelBunting · 20/03/2019 12:40

No comments read. I think they'd have had to go deep mining to find any positive ones.

Of course, the fact that everyone can clearly read 'male' will be presented as evidence that society is transphobic and trans people are terribly oppressed. These things are always spun to advantage.

Doyoumind · 20/03/2019 12:43

I don't understand how somebody who had never had any 'gender' problems into middle age and then went to a fancy dress party as a woman and liked it can now expect to be considered as a woman like any other woman.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 20/03/2019 12:49

For those of us without a Facebook account, anyone able to screen shot a sample of comments?

Lymphy · 20/03/2019 12:51

Nope no comments. I can’t think why Hmm
Blush pink ffs.

zanahoria · 20/03/2019 12:52

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zanahoria · 20/03/2019 12:53

thanks to everyone who watched that dross for comments so I didn't have to

misscockerspaniel · 20/03/2019 12:53

I am not on Facebook but I can still read the comments. Click on the link on the first page of this thread (4th post, blue link) and then when you get onto the facebook page, click on comments.

MrsFogi · 20/03/2019 13:05

This will only peak trans people if they are aware it is part of a wider issue. If anyone is able to do so in the rl name it would be good to post a link to the Fair Play for Women website on this thread on FB (and point out that people have been hauled in by the police for questioning under caution for misgendering).

hackmum · 20/03/2019 13:07

It's outrageous. Yesterday my male next door neighbour came round to pick up a parcel the postman had left. He was wearing bright pink mules and pink socks - not his usual look. Am I to take it he is now identifying as female?*

  • Actually, I think they were his girlfriend's. I didn't ask.
zanahoria · 20/03/2019 13:08

I read the facebook comments, I had just wondered whether they were being read out but didn't want to watch the programme.

Its amusing that Phil said he would read some but then back tracked

DodoPatrol · 20/03/2019 13:09

I do worry that this sort of thing the Facebook reaction of 'that's a man/ shoulda sued the surgeon/ clearly a dude/ Adam's apple is a giveaway' is fuel for the activists calling for earlier medication of children for better aesthetic outcome.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 20/03/2019 13:16

misscockerspaniel I’m on my mobile, tried but it’s not letting me click on the post or see comments! Never mind

terryleather · 20/03/2019 13:18

It's all about validation and forcing compliance.

It really is.

IT'S MA'AM!!!!! all over again but in a British stylie...right down to the I was wearing pink!!!!!.

Cloven · 20/03/2019 13:19

I do worry that this sort of thing the Facebook reaction of 'that's a man/ shoulda sued the surgeon/ clearly a dude/ Adam's apple is a giveaway' is fuel for the activists calling for earlier medication of children for better aesthetic outcome.

Katie's been pretty clear that she (realised she'd been a woman all along?) in her sixties at a fancy dress party so I'm not sure this case would help their argument much. Bless her for her candour, usually there's much more rewriting of history involved.

EweSurname · 20/03/2019 13:27

They may have been ignorant of it, but FB and twitter comments outside of a TRA bubble have always been overwhelmingly GC.

I don't think the vast population is gender critical - they might not believe you can change sex but my impression is that most people ascribe to gender and the stereotypes associated with it. Just not gender identity, perhaps.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/03/2019 13:29

I don't think the vast population is gender critical

yup

I think many (most?) people believe in lady brane, they just think only the cunty type of women can have one

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/03/2019 13:37

Can someone remind me, as the law currently stands does a GRC mean your sex is changed on record? I'm thinking it doesn't but could be wrong.

We're having friends over this weekend and once I'm a bit pissed as I'm not brave enough otherwise am going to bring this debate up over the cheese board. I want to have my facts 100%.

GCAcademic · 20/03/2019 13:43

Can someone remind me, as the law currently stands does a GRC mean your sex is changed on record? I'm thinking it doesn't but could be wrong.

With a GRC you can change your birth certificate to reflect your new, fictional sex. You do not need a GRC to change many other records, including driving license, passport, bank details, etc.

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 20/03/2019 13:43

Bless her for her candour, usually there's much more rewriting of history involved.

Fuck that. Someone who wants a substantial someone of money for being called by their correct sex is a stranger to candour.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/03/2019 13:46

Thanks GR. Holy shit.

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 20/03/2019 13:54

amount of money

RepealTheGRA · 20/03/2019 13:57

People with a GRC can still be excluded from single sex places if people bother to read and apply the law correctly.

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 20/03/2019 14:02

True. But whoever does this runs the risk of trial by Twitter with all that that entails. Not everyone has the stomach for it.

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