Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'

[abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise]

...and defends the Mermaids jelly baby scale. I'm so pissed off at people like this who have apparently done zero research and yet are happy to put their woke two cents in whilst also casually using misogynistic slurs. How can they not see how utterly sexist it all is? How is calling other women by a derogatory slur at all productive? How is using gender stereotypes in any way helpful? How about if we used them for race? Where would you fit on the race scale? Do you like eating watermelon and ribs or do you have a good sense of rhythm? Then you're more at the black end of the scale. No no no no no. The stereotypes are the problem, we don't need to work with the stereotypes we've got and be told to pick a place on the scale, we need to escape them altogether. FFS.

Yes, I’d always imagined she was about 10 years younger than me based on her style and comments. Apparently not.

If people are rude to and about Owen Jones it's a real red flag for me

Thought she was Labour? Surely the red flag is a good thing?

How is it even possible for anyone, left or right wing, not to be rude about Owen Jones?!

Sorry, ‘not to be rude about Owen Jones’ is what I meant to type.

I've heard a comedian on R4 being rude about OJ. Can't remember what, it was a throwaway remark but it got a good laugh.

In fairness to Richard Osman he liked one of Matt Lucas’ tweets about non binary people not necessarily being male or female and this all being new to him. Doesn’t mean he thinks TWAW, women are bigots and celebrates the defunding of rape centres in Vancouver etc.

And N

But...non binary is meaningless and everybody is either male or female!
So whoever Richard Osman is, he has no excuse for being so dim.
I just have no respect for anyone who can learn even a little bit about what the genderist lobby are pushing for (Mermaids, transing children, cheating at sports, believing in obvious lies )and not see how insane it is.

I imagine Matt Lucas is doing damage limitation for the transvestite Little Britain characters, after seeing how the hoards came after Glinner for his transwoman episode of the IT crowd.

Josie's tweeted "Just again for the record so you can unfollow me if you choose: I support self ID, I trust and support trans people, trans women are women, trans men are men, I am very happy to be called cis, I am literally a cisgender woman."

She literally sounds like a programmed bot.

There's more..."The ONLY version of feminism that feels dogmatic and unnatural is how strictly transphobes police what women are supposed to be. The constant chat about who looks and dresses wrong. Who is a permissible cis woman, lesbian woman, trans woman, FUCK OFF." - sounds like she approves of cotton ceiling rhetoric, then.

Have they kidnapped her baby or summit?

I loathe , loathe, loathe this lefty, ranty, virtue signalling, oh so laboured singing in a working-class accent , minimal to non-
existent actual musical ability type of performer. Even in the dim and distant past when I was sort of on the left this talent-
free clap trap set my teeth on edge.

Anyway you gender critical feminists might be interested in the lyrics to this. Don't build your hopes up at the first 4 lines tho- wait to the Terf War bit.

And her rhyming "fuckya" with "patriarchical structure" makes me want to slap her. I bet she's so pleased with it.

Well it’s a jungle out there
The year 2018, I didn’t think
We’d still be sorting babies into blue and pink
And all our progress
Well I wonder what it means
That the only girls clothes that work for me
Turn out to be boyfriend jeans

Well that’s fine
Cause I decline
A narrow set of rules that just don’t work
Cause these red lines
They’re not mine
And if you need me you can find me ironing my shirt

Cause I’m in black tie tonight
Get a postcard to my
Year 11 self in her year 11 hell
Saying everything’s gonna be alright
No you won’t grow out of it you will find the clothes that fit

And the images that fucked ya
Were a patriarchal structure
And you never will surrender
To a narrow view of gender
And I swear there’ll come a day
When you won’t worry what they say
On the labels, on the doors
You will figure out what’s yours

And it’s a bloody nightmare
Tryna fight the spread of bigotry and fear
That’s uniting Piers Morgan and Germaine Greer
And all our progress
Yeah I wonder who it’s for
When I dared to utter that trans lives matter
Yeah and all I got was a TERF war.

Well that’s fine
Cause I decline
Your narrow set of rules they just don’t work
These red lines
They’re not mine
And if you need me you can find me ironing my shirt

Cause I’m in black tie tonight
Get a postcard to my
Year 11 self in her year 11 hell
Saying everything’s gonna be alright
No you won’t grow out of it you will find the clothes that fit

And the images that fucked ya
Were a patriarchal structure
And you never will surrender
To a narrow view of gender
And I swear there’ll come a day
When you won’t worry what they say
On the labels, on the doors
You will figure out what’s yours

You will figure out what’s yours
And that it’s got
Nothing to do with fitting neatly in a box
That was constructed to make it seem
Like people come in just two teams
And anything that’s in between ain’t good enough
And you will love
And you’ll be loved

Well you’re in black tie tonight
Get a postcard to my
Year 11 self in her year 11 hell
Darling everything’s gonna be alright
No you won’t grow out of it
You will find the clothes that fit

And the images that fucked ya
Were a patriarchal structure
No you never will surrender
To a narrow view of gender

And there’s folks you’ve yet to meet
But you’re exactly up their street
And they’ve been waiting just as long
To hear someone sing this song
And better days are on their way
When it won’t matter what they say
On the labels, on the doors
You will figure out what’s yours

And girl you’re gonna be so happy
And girl you’re gonna be just fine
And girl you’re gonna be so happy
Down the line
Down the line

Euch. My partner put her Netflix standup show on recently and I was grinding my teeth after about five minutes and had to switch off. Doesn't surprise me at all that she's so vapidly, self-righteously "woke" on this issue too. I find it hard to believe she's several years older than me. Interesting how she posits herself as so compassionate whilst not giving two fucks about the vulnerable women attacked in prison by Karen White, because TWAW isn't a problem for her personally, as a middle class, priveledged white woman who isn't likely to end up in a refuge or prison.

I am literally a cisgender woman.

More power to your elbow love, but do your best not to get underfoot of women who eschew the patriarchal boot on our necks and are working to help other women and girls.

TWAW isn't a problem for her personally, as a middle class, priveledged white woman who isn't likely to end up in a refuge or prison.
I think the world is quite simple for women like them, caring about the underprivileged is more about the tradition of middle-class moral competitiveness between peers, rather than having anything at stake or any genuine intellectual engagement with the issues involved. When the shit gets real and there is more than one underprivileged group with conflicting rights, they can't handle the harsh reality of it all. I actually think their heart is in the right place, they just want everyone to get along, but as they lack the courage in themselves to face uncomfortable truths, instead they go along with the easiest option - selling women out, because we're always at the bottom of the pile, it's expected we move over and sacrifice our needs for others, and it's least likely to tar their reputation because no-one gives a shit.

Josie Long has been spectacularly not funny for her entire career. I've just watched a few clips on YouTube to remind myself how not funny she is.

She is so not funny she could be an undercover agent for a men's rights group to provide irrefutable proof that women (certainly this woman) aren't funny.

Lass sad but true. Also couldn't get through the song you posted. Completely bland musically before we even get onto the lyrics. Good art doesn't dictate. The great protest songs had poetry and passion, they convince you of their message by making you feel without telling you what to think.

LassOfFyvie
not clicking on the YouTube link, don't want to add to their video views but thanks for the discription of their singing style
Someone please tell them to spend a few seconds on Wikipedia. Talks about patriarchal structure (bad) and then goes on to mention Germaine Greer.(also bad... ) Oh the fucking irony.

I need me some Ani Difranco at this point, for some skilful, interesting music. I wonder if she's a TWAW bot now too. I used to love her stompy folksy rock when I was at uni.

Anyway, as you were.

It’s a challenge to be properly funny when you’ve been socialised to be agreeable.

Blue Yes, and Germaine is a baddie for agreeing with someone of an otherwise different political persuasion, because we must fall in with our own tribe at all times and when the other side is speaking stick our fingers in our ears and go 'lalalalala, not listening'.

Or rather, she's a baddie because some blokes might happen to agree with her on something.

It’s a challenge to be properly funny when you’ve been socialised to be agreeable

Not buying that for one minute. It is a challenge to be properly funny when you lack any original thought, have no stage presence and nothing funny to say.

One of the funniest comedians around at the moment is John Finnemore. You could not get any one more pleasant than John Finnemore. None of his material uses swearing, sex, politics or punching down. It does involve imagination, wild flights of fancy, clever use of language and convoluted shaggy dog punchlines which are incredibly clever when they get there.

Frankie Boyle is deeply unpleasant and another virtue- signalling lefty. He isn't funny either.

She has always struck me as unfunny and, yes, dim (Hannan went to Oxford too, as did Johnson... the list is long)