Julia Long asking Munro Bergdorf about child exploitation

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Julia Long was asked to leave the venue, after asking MB if it was normal that an 11yr old child dancing in front of adults, has money thrown at them by grown men. This was at Transmission & was deemed an offensive question....video footage on twitter of the incident.....worth a watch, sorry I can’t link to it but hope someone else can.

[Edited by MNHQ to add video link]

How is it that this is happening openly and being framed as affirmative action when it is clearly grooming, exploitation and sexualising a young child?

Because powerful people want it to happen, this is a look at what the future holds for more children.

A ‘prolific and persistent troll’ pretended to be a teenager, in order to defend adults accused of sexualising minors?

Is this a brand new low or am I still clinging on to my last remnants of my former naivety?

Is this a brand new low or am I still clinging on to my last remnants of my former naivety?

Have you seen the adult babies yet?

Betty
I honestly think it's a new low. It gets clearer by the day though.
Let's hope they expose themselves enough for end goals to become clear to all.

The child called Lactatia is my current low. All the awfulness of poor Desmond and a fetish-y name too.

Sexualised behaviour in young children is learned, and doesn't reflect their sexual orientation or preference, it reflects what they've learned through survival behaviours from the situation adults put them in.

You can see this so clearly with Desmond, possibly made even more so by the fact he is autistic and therefore even more vulnerable.

Munroe must know this is wrong deep down, they must know this at the very least it looks terrible. But the thing with the trans agenda is that it is so all or nothing, that you cant be seen to be off message on anything, otherwise you will be 'letting the side down'.

And that is what makes it so dangerous, so open to abuse.

Some gay men have already come out on twitter saying that they totally disagree with Desmond being in that nightclub because that is 'where we party and where we fuck'.

Good for them, we need more of it.

And by that i mean the ones who post here about women being infantilized in the future, not random peopel with the fetish?

I think it's a new low, too. They will be exposed. Because they can't help it. They are inured to how wrong it is.

A ‘prolific and persistent troll’ pretended to be a teenager, in order to defend adults accused of sexualising minors?

Yes, and for the screenshots of the meanies at mumsnet being mean to a 45 year old troll 17 year old 'trans woman'.

Evening, everyone.

We're afraid we had to zap a couple of links to the video at the start of this thread. Someone quite correctly pointed out that the comments in the link broke our guidelines in that they used names and terms that go against someone's preferred pronouns and felt a bit derogatory, so we felt they did have to go.

You're very welcome to post another link to the video as long as it's not accompanied by any wording that breaks our guidelines. Sunset if you can find a suitable link we'd be happy to edit a new link into your old post so the video remains at the top.

Thanks, everyone.

that's the end game, isn't it? Unfettered access to groomed children

Is it? If Mermaids have their way we’ll end up with a lot of young adults (eg legal) with children’s genitalia.

CaptainKirk
Like paedophile rapist David Challenor. Still can't believe the influence wielded by him and AC and the fact that it still informs actions of certain groups/ parties. Outrageous breach of safeguarding.
I wonder how many more there are, equally intent on breaking down social barriers wrt to sexualisation of children who hold powerful positions?

Yes indeed, we must prioritise pronouns over grooming concerns. Well spotted TRAs.

Interesting - Joani Walsh (of whom I am rather fond even though she would eat me for breakfast) also tweeted about this and got reported:
twitter.com/joaniwalshi/status/1097907104671846400

It's almost as if some people don't want us to talk about it.

Yes indeed, we must prioritise pronouns over grooming concerns.

Fucking hell. I mean, just - fucking hell.

On Mumsnet.

I’ve just been flicking through the thread while cooking the tea with the intention of watching the video and reading the links afterwards, and now they’re gone.

So now not only are we not allowed to say certain words on here, but we’re not allowed to link to other people saying certain words. Obviously words are much worse than grooming and sexually exploiting children... And on a fucking parenting web site no fucking less...

History will not look kindly on this, any of it.

Is that because sunset referred to MB as make in her Twitter thread? And someone, rather than engaging in the discussion about the advocacy of grooming a child, has whined to MNHQ about fucjubg pronouns? And MNHQ have entertained that? Jesus fucking Christ on a bike.

Make=male

I think it shows how keen they are to stop us talking about this. Their problem is that the more they try, the more they're going to bump this thread, and the more people will see them for who they are.

The YouTube version is still available. Exactly the same version. But with no links.

Someone desperately does not want people to see Bergdorf being complicit in child sexual exploitation. Unsurprisingly.

@HebeMumsnet, If we were linking to a video about child grooming and the links had derogatory references to Jimmy Savile or the Rotherham grooming gangs would you uphold complaints about those too?

@HebeMumsnet

Can you please put this version of the video in the title. There are no links.