Martina speaks out!

[PimmsnLemonade]

I'm so pleased to see this. I've been a big fan of Martina since I was a kid and this just makes her go up even higher in my estimation:

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/martina-navratilova-blasts-cheating-transgender-women-in-sport-8fmjbnh99

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-rules-on-trans-athletes-reward-cheats-and-punish-the-innocent-klsrq6h3

one is a psychologist who claims that he and his colleagues can't tell the difference between male and female mice

Isn't that just an admission of incompetence, though? The fact that he can't tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't a difference. Determining the sex of chickens is so hard that they have to employ trained specialists to do it, but there most certainly is a difference. There's a reason they kill male chicks at birth...

That many people are agreeing in the first place, even if they delete it after the abuse...is promising. It shows that a lot do get it, just they are too scared to say it. Which means, there are more potential people just waiting for others to 'go first' so to speak. Its totally understandable that the first tweet they put is deleted, as I do remember the first TRA pile on I got and it was terrifying tbh (one went so far as to threaten to track down me and my kids and rape us...I had literally just said 'I think I agree with this but will look into it a bit more') and my account was pretty anon, it did use my real name, but its a really common name. It must be a hell of a lot worse when you are so easily identified..

I'm assuming Amanda got piled on for not sticking up for women identifying as men who have babies.

And here is the fucking duplicity.

She would have been shamed for not sticking up for people she knows full well are actually women by the very people who will shame her for not denying that, when it comes to men.

You must believe men are women, and deny reality, otherwise we will shame you.

Then we will leverage the reality that you know people can't change sex, when it comes to shaming you about women who say they are men.

No.

Men can't change sex. Women can't change sex. Men and women are words that have meanings. An adult human female who is pregnant, is not simultaneously an adult human male.

Amanda Abbingdon - you are right. And you are being manipulated.

Determining the sex of chickens is so hard that they have to employ trained specialists to do it,

For mice - It’s a part of the home office licence holder training - that everyone working with lab animals has to pass.

So someone’s not very competent, and shouldn’t have a licence

They must be absolutely overrun with the buggers if they aren’t separating them out of the breeding areas fast enough ...

One of the best comments on that twitter feed.

"When sane people start apologising to delusional people for fear of offending their delusion - we truly are lost as a society"

Lift mouse by the tail and the answer is staring you in the face.

Isn't that just an admission of incompetence, though?

No, he is an idiot. He might also be an incompetent psychologist; I don't know. But anyone who claims to be a scientist and then claims that they can't tell the difference between male and female mice is a moron.

The fact that he can't tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't a difference.

True. See point above.

He also believes that lesbians should sleep with transwomen to show how inclusive they are.

Thanks for posting those screenshots via Glinner. Ffs. I don't know why I'm remotely surprised she was piled on, and I understand the fear that the fire breathing must instill, but honestly.... And I love her original response. Probably what so many of us had as an instinctive reaction.

Oh honestly, this is ridiculous. Transmen apparently have an advantage over men

twitter.com/RachelT1722/status/1098472241325592576

Just seen this and keeping an eye on developments, but seems the TRA argument type is talking utter fucking rubbish.

Transmen on testosterone are banned: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drugs_banned_by_WADA

Having a physicians prescription makes no difference.

Here are the WADA - World Anti Doping Association rules on testosterone and hormone use by transgender athletes.
The tweeting idiot referring to transgender male athletes, conveniently "forgets" that because they are born female, they will not enjoy the physiological advantages which a male has from birth.

www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/TUE_guidance_transgender.pdf

"Transmen on testosterone are banned: "

Not always, the young US wrestler who transitioned from girl to boy was on testosterone whilst he was transitioning and wrestling against girls. He is now wrestling against the blokes.

usatodayhss.com/2018/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-booed

The tweeting idiot referring to transgender male athletes, conveniently "forgets" that because they are born female, they will not enjoy the physiological advantages which a male has from birth.

And moreso, the advantages acquired during puberty.

It's just so ridiculous

Transmen have a potential advantage over men, because there are more relaxed rules governing their testosterone limits

AND

Transmen are men and are exactly the same as men because they have always been men

See also: [someone may need to replace this with a share token version]

"By branding Martina Navratilova a bigot, the trans lobby shows how intolerant and extreme it has become"

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2019/02/21/martina-navratilova-serving-sense-gender/

See also:

"In defence of Martina Navratilova
Trans activists are carrying on like a religious sect."

www.spiked-online.com/2019/02/21/in-defence-of-martina-navratilova/

She is taking a bullet for the team. Lesbians of a certain age are being peaked big time over this. I peaked one myself today. You dont mess with Martina

Trouble with mice, you can ask them how they identify but can you understand the answer?

Aye. They're shifty bastards, mice.

I feel a Hitchhiker's Guide reference is appropriate here, but I'm knackered, so can someone else do it?

I was thinking the same thing Floral, but all I got was a Bob Dylan earworm.

Lift mouse by the tail and the answer is staring you in the face.

How does one go about identifying mouse testicles of the lady variety?

Will this do you Floral?

These creatures you call mice, you see, they are not quite as they appear. They are merely the protrusion into our dimension of vast hyperintelligent pandimensional beings. The whole business with the cheese and the squeaking is just a front.

Excellent

I dunno
That mouse on me bedside rug tried to self id it’s way out of the cats gob
No luck
It’s wasnt a shifty enough mouse