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Martina speaks out!

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PimmsnLemonade · 17/02/2019 01:14

I'm so pleased to see this. I've been a big fan of Martina since I was a kid and this just makes her go up even higher in my estimation:

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/martina-navratilova-blasts-cheating-transgender-women-in-sport-8fmjbnh99

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-rules-on-trans-athletes-reward-cheats-and-punish-the-innocent-klsrq6h3

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Ereshkigal · 20/02/2019 17:19

Has India had any comeback on that tweet?

SparkiePolastri · 20/02/2019 17:21

It's not just hormone levels, it's build, stride, reach, lung capacity.

Exactly?! I've never understood why the focus has solely been on testosterone level.

Can't believe I'm vehemently agreeing with India Willoughby.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 20/02/2019 17:31

India is annoyed that terfs are now following India. Apparently they are all blocked.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 20/02/2019 17:32

Here

Martina speaks out!
Manderleyagain · 20/02/2019 17:47

Boy George disagrees with Martina!
India w is speaking sense on this. I have looked at a few twitter threads and seen a few people saying I am trans but I agree with Martina on this. Yet the reporting has mostly emphasised criticism of Martina even that doesn't ring true.

SparkiePolastri · 20/02/2019 18:44

Yeah, sorry Boy George - your opinion doesn't carry a fraction of the weight of Martina's. Confused

Datun · 20/02/2019 18:48

The problem is if you agree that transwomen should not compete with women, it's because they're not women.

And there, right ahead of you, is the slippery slope...

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 18:49

More like a chairlift up to the Peak.Grin

Kettleon80 · 20/02/2019 18:57

What the fuck Boy George?

Where to start?!! Is he that thick?

SparkiePolastri · 20/02/2019 19:01

Transpeople themselves admit they were born into the wrong body.

The wrong body.

They themselves say this.

Kettleon80 · 20/02/2019 19:03

Yes Sparkle!!!

Datun · 20/02/2019 19:06

SparkiePolastri

Indeed.

#translogic

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2019 19:06

But where’s all the wrong bodies

Is there a wrong body place where we can go and choose ?

OlennasWimple · 20/02/2019 19:09

If the IOC are saying that reducing, or not producing testosterone, for one year is good enough, then does that mean all athletes, male and female can take testosterone for the three years before the Olympics, stop taking it in the final year and be allowed to compete?

There's a practical problem here for most athletes, as to reach the qualifying standard for the Olympics they have to participate in events which will have their own drugs testing regimes. So Semenya will need to compete in things like the World Championships and the Diamond League to get her qualifying time, at which point she will be tested if she is successful (or chosen at random). It's only small countries who are only fielding one athlete (maybe two? I can't jsut remember) who get a waiver from qualifying times

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 20/02/2019 19:09

I have to say I'm disappointed with Boy George over this I thought he was a bit more intelligent but I guess he has to sacrifice his integrity to make his career revive a bit

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/02/2019 19:18

I wonder what Marilyn says...

Vixxxy · 20/02/2019 19:32

I find it hard to believe that loads of 'terfs' are trying to follow India Hmm

EweSurname · 20/02/2019 19:35

FFs!

Cllr Brian Silvester ❌
@CllrBSilvester
Martina is right.
Men who claim to be women can't be allowed to compete against women.
Why aren't the feminist groups speaking out about this?

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 19:40

Why aren't the feminist groups speaking out about this?

Because they're being no-platformed, blocked, disinvited from BBC interviews, not asked for interview (apparently C5 has just had a discussion with 3 TW)...

Hopefully someone will point this out to him?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 20/02/2019 19:40

Ah Brian. We've been screaming our heads off and hammering on the windows of Whitehall for about.... three years now? Four? I've lost count. It's lovely you've noticed. There's a fuckton few other things you might be interested in as outrageous to women. We could start with the BBC if you've got a mo.

ChattyLion · 20/02/2019 19:44

OMG India and the ‘Terf’ tweets. Hmm
Does India realise that insulting women that India doesn’t agree with, using that insult is every bit as misogynistic as calling us bitches or cunts.

Also worth noting that decent women don’t tend to abuse other women in that particularly ugly, sexist way... Confused

FromEden · 20/02/2019 19:51

McKinnon's latest tweet

"Yes, the overwhelming number of cis women SUPPORT the inclusion of their trans siblings. It's only a small, very loud minority who oppose us."

Haha. The delusion is real. The vast majority of people, men and women do not support biological males competing against women in sports. That's plain to see if you read any of the comments on articles or talk to people outside the woke echo chamber.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 19:58

"Yes, the overwhelming number of cis women SUPPORT the inclusion of their trans siblings. It's only a small, very loud minority who oppose us."

There RM goes with that 'not knowing what you're talking about' false assertion speciality.

RollerJed · 20/02/2019 20:05

Why is it only cis woman who apparently disagree? I'm pretty sure I've read tweets from lots of cis men who definitely disagree Hmm

And fuck off with your 'sibling' comment. You're no sister of mine Angry

birdsdestiny · 20/02/2019 20:10

If you block every fucker except those who agree with you, it would be possible to come to this conclusion.

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