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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jean Hatchet deletes Twitter account

197 replies

sueanddumplings · 28/01/2019 10:46

Seems to be some suggestion that it's as a result of the reaction to her blog post criticising Posie.

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R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 12:17

Woman Adult Human Female is #StandingForWomen
#WomenStandUp
#ReSistersUnited

If anyone is on Twitter please tweet the hashtags above and retweet all the photos. It was bloody cold last night and a lot of fabulous feminists were out on the streets hanging Adult Human Female T Shirts on female statues.

gallery here:
resistersunited.org/gallery/

Jean Hatchet deletes Twitter account
Jean Hatchet deletes Twitter account
Jean Hatchet deletes Twitter account
Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 12:18

Thanks Rowan, that’s awesome

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 12:27

Lots of warnings in FWR threads about how TRA's try to 'sow discord' but I don't think any of them could have done a better job than Jean Hatchet just did.

Some TRAs will always seek to sow discord between women.
Some will always continue to do so.

Its worth being aware on MN FWR of how this may happen.

TowelNumber42 · 28/01/2019 12:29

Twitter's a waste of time. The more people leave the better. Let it become like an irrelevant angry sub reddit.

WunderBlah · 28/01/2019 12:32

Stop bashing Jean Hatchet, or any woman for that matter.

Idolatry is foolish and short sighted. Jean does not owe you me or anyone else anything and neither does Posie.

Don't be distracted, we are all human and all entitled to our own opinions. What matters is what we agree on. Women unite.

HawayMan · 28/01/2019 12:36

Leave Jean alone. She is entitled to her opinion, and she is free to express herself however she wishes to. The same goes for Posie and everyone else.

The GC feminist movement is not a cult. We are allowed to disagree with each other. It would be weirder if we didn't!

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 12:37

Stop bashing Jean Hatchet, or any woman for that matter.

Nobody is doing that. Don’t tell women what they can or cannot have an opinion on. Jean has every right to speak out, set limits and anything else she sees fit to do. But she criticised others, so some might also in return criticise her too. That’s how this all works. It’s only when we start accusing each other of ‘bashing’, make certain people untouchable and others frequent targets, that we start to see things turn into arguments rather than civilised debates. We are all entitled to our opinions, some may be stronger than yours.

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 12:37

Twitter's a waste of time. The more people leave the better. Let it become like an irrelevant angry sub reddit.

Agreed

Iused2BanOptimist · 28/01/2019 12:41

Agree Iggypoppie

And FAB work Rowan.

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 12:45

The FAB work is all done by the women who were out ;ast night in the cold.

I'm just linking to where the pictures are.

Its important that these are shared widely and talked about.

LangCleg · 28/01/2019 13:09

I think arguments are normal and natural and not the end of the world. And, at times of high drama, that it's healthy to take a break if you're in the eye of a storm and it's becoming distressing.

Let's just allow the women who want a break to have a break.

And welcome them when they come back.

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 13:50

If anyone is on Twitter please tweet the hashtags above and retweet all the photos. It was bloody cold last night and a lot of fabulous feminists were out on the streets hanging Adult Human Female T Shirts on female statues.

Amazing photographs being shared here:

OP Doobigetta wrote:
"ReSisters groups in Manchester, Sheffield, Birmingham, Cambridge, Cardiff and across the country were out standing for women last night and did an amazing job. Please share your photos here!"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3492065-ReSisters-stand-up-for-adult-human-females

FlyingOink · 28/01/2019 13:54

Let it become like an irrelevant angry sub reddit.
Agreed here too. Twitter is poison

BettyDuMonde · 28/01/2019 13:58

Jean and Posie are coming at the same issue from two different backgrounds and two different angles. It’s inevitable that they wouldn’t agree on everything, and they aren’t obliged to pretend they are.

I admire them both. I hope Jean feels able to return to twitter shortly, should she want to.

I hope Posie attracts as much attention as possible to the situation during her US visit - getting publicity is Posie’s strength.

enough2 · 28/01/2019 14:03

JH has every right to her opinion. But so do other people. No use writing a blog post like she did then closing down all communication when other people respond.

AnyFucker · 28/01/2019 14:08

I deleted my Twitter account about 18 months ago..

My life is better for it

Melroses · 28/01/2019 14:12

@FionneOrlander's account's gone too. So is @MrsMeadowsweet.

I love both of them. Hope they come back

Bubonicpanic · 28/01/2019 14:23

Great phots. Well done.

BettyDuMonde · 28/01/2019 14:23

Maybe those that are taking a break from twitter will consider joining us here instead?

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 14:26

Yeah twitter isn’t the place for proper respectful debate. We all had a very good conversation about this over the weekend, here, where most aim to listen, learn and most of all respect each other’s personal decisions.

Jeanhatchet · 28/01/2019 14:37

@enough2

In case it escaped your attention I have been struggling with cancer. I'm just getting on my feet. I don't have to stand in a damn firing squad 24 hours a day on Twitter at the same time if I don't want to. If I want to take a break I will.

I didn't shut down communication I said I wouldn't work with men of The Heritage Foundation (or have lunch with them or show them any consideration as valid at all) who fundamentally harm women with their beliefs and their money and their ability to shape government policy. They harm specifically poor women and specifically poor women of colour.

I think what some people are missing is ... that I'm not standing on the sidelines sniping at a woman... it was more than that...I was stepping back from being on a plane to go and do some things that went against my beliefs. Do you think I didn't fancy a break? Do you think I didn't begrudge wasting £400 I can't afford? I invested that in a trip to defend women's rights and to object to them being silenced around those rights. I did not agree to also take part in a thinly disguised courting of men who hate women.

I thought it was more important to take a stand and NOT GO at all - not even to the fun drinks and the nice bits ...and saying I wasn't going was in order to show a little bit of solidarity with working class women who know exactly what those men will do to them if they influence policy being formed by the Trump administration. This is not only about gender identity legislation.

I don't expect women to automatically agree with me. I do think I have a right to stand up when I'm suspicious of what poor women are being asked to endorse. Because poor women are also buying merchandise that funds that activism. They have a right to know what it is funding.

What I also have a right to do is say when I'm tired. I'm taking a very short break as I'm sick of the negativity at a time I most need to be positive. I have to fight to keep my body healthy and also my mind strong in order to try to keep cancer at bay. Currently I'm hoping I can be well for as long as possible.

I'm proud of the activism of women up and down the country right now. I don't care if they are "branded" by Posie Parker t shirts or not. I support their actions and hope they achieve a change in some people's minds. The stuff they are doing is brilliant. Well done to all the "resisters" movement.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 28/01/2019 14:38

I like Posie, on a thread but to long ago I said about 5 positive things about her, including how much I admired her. I said 1 negative....well I just said I disagreed with her on something.
It was a nice little pile on and I was attacked in a very personal way. I was accused of ‘not supporting women’.
Jean should have known that it would attract attention but I’m sure like me, she was also shocked at the level of vitriol targeted at her.
You expect it from the TRA’s , you don’t expect it from your fellow feminists.

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 14:38

JH has every right to her opinion. But so do other people. No use writing a blog post like she did then closing down all communication when other people respond

See my previous post:
Jean Hatchet has posted this information for herself this morning on a current thread. Jean has also said:

Jeanhatchet Mon 28-Jan-19 10:46:37
I may reactivate later and stick to just posting my rides for murdered women - because I cannot abandon them. I want to remember their names and their stories. It matters to me more than anything else

But please leave me out of any more on this front regarding Posie Parker. I'm tired.

I said my piece. I stand by it. But the relentless attacks are too much.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3489450-Jean-Hatchet-new-blog-post?pg=31

I'm not sure the value of this additional thread

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 28/01/2019 14:40

Sorry - that reads so poorly at first.
^^

Cross post with Jean-

Much love to you jean Star thank you for all that you do Flowers

faintlyridiculous · 28/01/2019 14:42

Because poor women are also buying merchandise that funds that activism. They have a right to know what it is funding

Yet you claim that you’re £400 down. So it doesn’t sound like the merchandise that poor women are also buying is funding this activism. Or maybe you’re not out of pocket...