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Reports of Macclesfield pub barring woman for wearing’adult human female’ T shirt

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MrsSnippyPants · 30/12/2018 22:37

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R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 09:30

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Reports of Macclesfield pub barring woman for wearing’adult human female’ T shirt
littlbrowndog · 31/12/2018 09:31

And why are you calling ppl cunts ?

TimeLady · 31/12/2018 09:33

Two conflicting ideologies here:

  1. The biological fact based one that women are adult human females
  1. The biological fiction based one that males can change into females just by thinking about it.

H'mm….let's put that to the public vote.

GerryblewuptheER · 31/12/2018 09:34

Vulnerable group?
Nah

All the privilege of their birth sex growing up.

Plus the teflon coating of being brave and stunning.

Never was there's group of people elevated to such power merely for existing.

They are anything but vulnerable

GerryblewuptheER · 31/12/2018 09:37

Thanks just like when Dr H accused posie women of appropriating the word woman

finnmcool · 31/12/2018 09:41

pinky what do you think is so bad, what the idealogy is, that you are telling people not to act like cunts?

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 09:45

You know it’s the ideology behind the slogan, not the slogan itself, that it is used by groups of people who want to identify themselves with an ideology that excludes a vulnerable group in society. Let’s not act the cunt here.

ideology
noun
1.
a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

definition
noun
1.
a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary.

for context, September 2018 Sky interview with Dr Adrian Harrop who campaigned for the removal of the poster with the dictionary definition of 'woman' & Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker) of 'Standing For Women' who commissioned the billboard

website:
www.standingforwomen.com/

LangCleg · 31/12/2018 09:58

You know it’s the ideology behind the slogan, not the slogan itself, that it is used by groups of people who want to identify themselves with an ideology that excludes a vulnerable group in society. Let’s not act the cunt here.

Are you referring to mostly middle class, mostly heterosexual, male people who have the full backing of government, institutions and corporations? Always interesting to see such people characterised as vulnerable.

GerryblewuptheER · 31/12/2018 10:04

Are you referring to mostly middle class, mostly heterosexual, male people who have the full backing of government, institutions and corporations? Always interesting to see such people characterised as vulnerable

I wish people would notice that they actually arent dropping like flies, their rights are already protested in law and any so called "discrimination" only ever appears to be refusal into soaces with naked women and girls.

AthenaWhite · 31/12/2018 10:04

How many women died in December? How many women dies this year, murdered by men? Far too many I know that.

There is your vulnerable group pinky, women and girls.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 31/12/2018 10:10

Come on now, LangCleg, you know as well as I do that middle class
het. men are incredibly vulnerable! They spend their entire lives getting exactly what they want, so when they come up against a 'no' it's almost impossible for them to process the pain.

userschmoozer · 31/12/2018 10:12

Let’s not act the cunt here.
this carefully hand crafted insult was brought to you by The Ministry of Irony.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 31/12/2018 10:16

Now, now, cunty women, you must play nice above all. Couldn’t have you going about defining yourselves or, heavens forefend, having ideologies now, could we?

Actually, fuck that, I’m going to order a dangerous t-shirt. I will have to be careful wielding such a weapon in public lest it literally murder someone

ReflectentMonatomism · 31/12/2018 10:20

Am I going to regret asking what a Gypsy (or variously gypsy, they appear unable to make their mind up) brewery is? If it's metaphorical for nomadic, then it's stupid. If it's about their proud biological and cultural heritage, do they believe that middle class English people can understand the oppression of the Roma just by saying they do?

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 31/12/2018 10:30

Got my nice cosy Adult Human Female hoodie on today (with big pocket containing both phone strap and hole for headphones cable).

Maybe it's just as well I'm not in Macclesfield.

Popchyk · 31/12/2018 10:32

Yeah, I thought that, Reflectent.

The woke dudebros should really be up in arms about cultural appropriation. Of the Roma. But they'll give it a pass because of the opportunity to denounce women instead.

Be interesting to see how this plays out.

This brewery seems to have blundered into what it thought was easy win territory. Act on what someone else told them was offensive ideology, bar someone from the premises, and win pats on the back from the woke.

They could end up being sued.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 31/12/2018 10:33

Let’s not act the cunt here.

Grin Oh how I love this comment! Yes, let’s not act the cunt. Accept what you are and what you never will be.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 31/12/2018 10:39

There were even a couple of Tweets from the pub.

twitter.com/hear_woman/status/1079482215594106881?s=19

Apparently the woman had been 'warned previously'

Reports of Macclesfield pub barring woman for wearing’adult human female’ T shirt
SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 31/12/2018 10:42

There's an article about 'gyspy' breweries here. vinepair.com/wine-blog/what-is-gypsy-brewing/

This bunch of jokers may be the exception but generally, no they aren't part of any recognised travelling group, and it's just a coool name which they believe they can use no matter how offensive other people might find it. So perfectly consistent with their reinterpretation of the word 'woman'.

ReflectentMonatomism · 31/12/2018 10:43

The woke dudebros

"Wankers" is easier to type.

GenderIsAPrison · 31/12/2018 10:46

Does Dr Haddock run or own the brewery?

That tweet sounds like him.

ReflectentMonatomism · 31/12/2018 10:48

There's an article about 'gypsy' breweries here

Lord.

Tossers.

Thanks for telling me. Now I know something else to avoid.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 31/12/2018 10:48

So, company making money out of appropriation object to people objecting to appropriation. Unsurprising.

GerryblewuptheER · 31/12/2018 10:58

Wonder what the women did that was so terrible Hmm

I remember working in pubs. The amount of inappropriate comments, touching, insults, bad behaviour etc that people get away with. They'd have had to climbed over the bar and threatened to have stabbed the staff to get anywhere close to what many male customers say and do whilst still being allowed through the doors.

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 11:01

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