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Reports of Macclesfield pub barring woman for wearing’adult human female’ T shirt

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MrsSnippyPants · 30/12/2018 22:37

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Datun · 31/12/2018 13:28

Her previous transphobia was talking about it and distributing fair play for women leaflets, is my understanding.

Let's be honest, if she'd done anything actually bad, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

And I've still yet to hear exactly what is transphobic about those leaflets, and the dictionary definition of women.

This pathetic, unthinking, knee-jerk reaction to legitimate concern is almost more worrying.

welshgendercrit · 31/12/2018 16:56

Well, this thread has just spurred me to buy myself the 'woman - adult human female' hoodie I've been promising myself. I will NOT surrender the word woman to any man who tries to claim it.

Sparkyduchess · 31/12/2018 17:49

I’ve found this deeply upsetting.

In the last days of 2018, a woman who is enjoying an evening with friends can be thrown out of a pub for wearing the dictionary definition of ‘woman’.

Her crime is that she has previously handed out leaflets, and the combination of leaflets and t shirt made someone feel threatened.

Prior to someone complaining, the pub were happy to serve her a meal and several rounds of drinks.

I wonder what the pubs reaction would have been if a woman complained about a man wearing a t shirt with ‘no means maybe, maybe means yes, and yes means anal’?

Or if a white person complained about someone black wearing a ‘black lives matter ‘ shirt?

I think in both examples the reaction would have been different.

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 17:54

It seems from twittersphere there may have been a group of people connected with the pub who were intent on 'removing the terf'

Pythagonal · 31/12/2018 18:10

That's the feeling I got too, R0wan .

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 18:23

Pythagonal some evidence seems to be being collated.

FWRLurker · 31/12/2018 18:37

"Who knew buying IPA (it's bound to be IPA, that's about all "craft beer" consists of these days) in a pub was such an ideological minefield?"

Nonono... the truly woke only drink Sours now. IPAs are sooo c. 2010...

Pythagonal · 31/12/2018 21:34

I've just seen the screen shots from FB, R0. Absolutely disgusting.

Bowlofbabelfish · 31/12/2018 22:25

Let’s not act the cunt here.

Perfection.
Exactly Grin

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/01/2019 02:19

Bowl Grin
🍷 happy New year

LaundryLaundryLaundry · 01/01/2019 07:15

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R0wantrees · 01/01/2019 08:30

Laundry I've had a bottle of the Forest Gin, its lovely (both bottle and contents) which comes from a farming family who like many have had to diversify. Maccelesfield is predominately surrounded by hill farmers.

They've nothing to do with what happened at the pub which seems increasingly more about bullying by a small group of customers and poor decision/s by pub management.

It seems likely that the facts of what actually happened will come to light.

R0wantrees · 01/01/2019 08:34

Standing For Women T.Shirts etc now available with a 20% discount to those in Macclesfield area (with SK postcode)

Reports of Macclesfield pub barring woman for wearing’adult human female’ T shirt
FlawedAmazon · 01/01/2019 09:51

There were some screenshots on Twitter regarding the incident. Not surprisingly there was the usual aggressive rhetoric.

Also, it looks as if they were deleting messages from customers complaining about the way the women were treated. If I can track any down I'll post them here.

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GenderIsAPrison · 01/01/2019 10:47

Can’t believe I’m actually seeing this. People threatening the job of a teacher.

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GenderIsAPrison · 01/01/2019 10:48

!!

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/01/2019 10:55

Threats to womens livelihoods if they believe that mammals generally come in two types, dicky and cunty, and this is how you get babies

Presumably this woman on twitter is busy burning textbooks in her back garden

NameChangeForTheNewYear · 01/01/2019 11:03

I think Laundry was suggesting Forest Gin might not be too impressed with having their brand associated with misogynist bullies - rather than them being complicit somehow. That's how I read it the post. It's gone now anyway!

ChewyLouie · 01/01/2019 11:04

I hope they stop and think about their actions #women’s rights are human rights.
Together with their patrons they are standing with those attempting to erase women. Their actions are not against faceless people but their own mothers, sisters, partners, daughters.

FabulouslyGlamorousFerret · 01/01/2019 14:23

I bloody love Forest Gin!

FlawedAmazon · 01/01/2019 21:33

Wow

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FloralBunting · 01/01/2019 21:40

I just can't get my head around the confident denunciation of sexism while banning a woman for stating that women are adult human females, and promoting an ideology that says that 'woman' is a feeling in a man's head.

It's like these people have heard words like 'sexism' and 'homophobia' and they haven't got to the definitions of them, they just shout them randomly at certain points in their tweets.

FlawedAmazon · 01/01/2019 21:46

I've sent them a tweet telling them exactly what I think of their virtue signalling batshittery.

FlawedAmazon · 01/01/2019 22:05

Adult human females should definitely avoid this place in Macclesfield, as they seem to have a problem with actual women.

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AlecTrevelyan006 · 01/01/2019 22:58

for some reason I had a look at the bear & squirrel brewing Co who sent a supportive tweet to the Five Clouds Brewery - doing so suggests that their definition of a 'female-led brewery' is not one that most people would agree with. The same person pops up in all the photos

and to save you the trouble of googling - because i've already done it - the name of that person is Erica Deuso who is a very vocal trans rights activist

theellereport.blogspot.com/2013/03/pgns-people-to-watch-regions-emerging.html

Erica Deuso

The transgender flag soared high over Drexel University on Transgender Day of Remembrance this past fall, largely a product of the work of alum Deuso.

Deuso, 32, earned her bachelor’s in biological sciences and chemistry in 2003 and, last year, her master’s of business administration in pharmaceutical management from Drexel.

In addition to leading the way for trans inclusion on Drexel’s campus, Deuso, who identifies as intersex, has worked as a lean deployment analyst at a local Fortune 100 pharmaceutical company for about four years, where she focuses on enhancing operational excellence by maximizing productivity and minimizing resource output.

She also serves as the company’s gender-transition liaison, working with trans-identified employees to navigate their workplace transitions. She also works to advance education initiatives both in and outside the company and for two years has sat on the trans advisory committee of Out & Equal Workplace Advocates.

At her workplace, she spearheaded the creation of guidelines for workplace transitions, transforming a brief document into a 17-page guidebook.

“It’s very comprehensive and focuses more on working with the other employees and management than on the trans individual themselves,” she said.

She also worked with the company’s benefits group to expand its trans-related health coverage from items such as gender-reassignment surgery and hormone therapy to breast augmentation, laser-hair removal and facial procedures.

“I think I’ve been able to help remove some of the fears and stigma that trans employees have about transitioning on the job,” she said. “Before I transitioned, there had been I think five or six employees here who were ready to come out, but nobody had the courage to. But by going through and making these new guidelines and making the changes that needed to be done, I wanted to show other people that you can transition on the job, that you can make changes without feeling stigmatized for being who you are. I think that opened a lot of doors for other people.”

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