Martina Navratilova states the obvious

[Glinner]

twitter.com/Martina/status/1075193284660785153

At first I was delighted to see thisat last a big name in women's sport is speaking up! but then I got angry all over again that this utterly obvious point has to be explained to an adult, in this case, a Guardian journalist. It boggles the mind.

that picture sends out a very clear message, we are getting away with this in plain sight

Yes, I suspect for McKinnon and McKinnon-a-likes there's a thrill of forcing women to publicly comply when they, the women, and the audience all know that what is being performed is a lie.

I don’t understand where the market lies for tickets to these freak shows.

McKinnon is mental.

Martina is a legend.

I think you have to be pretty sick to enjoy a mixed martial arts tournament between a man and a woman. She might as well be chained up and whipped.

men who don’t care at all about women care about other men cheating

I agree, also the instinct to dislike and denounce bullies is strong in most people

I agree. A close friend has just divorced a narcissist and McKinnon’s tweets are just like something he would write to her. Giving out advice in a patronising tone as if he’s doing her a favour. Again she is very successful and he is not.

Some links:
'How a narcissist uses DARVO & how to Protect yourself'

www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ynnYxPZlQ

"A narcissistic HCP [High Conflict Person] typically engages in a lot of all-or-nothing thinking, unmanaged emotions, and extreme behavior. This often takes the form of constant insults, putting themselves up by putting others down, identifying themselves as winners and everyone else as losers, and repeatedly demanding admiration from those around them."
www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201802/are-you-target-blame-narcissist

www.yourtango.com/experts/judith_tutin/5-ways-spot-when-narcissist-ues-darvo-make-himself-the-victim-in-relationships

from thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452784-Coercive-Control-a-need-for-better-awareness

that fast show squash clip sums it up brilliantly @Aspie :o

And another one to show it’s not just his kids Competative Dad bullies.

For full effect Competitive Dad would need to be beating people who he feels resentful for because they don't want to have sex with him...

If any comedy writers are reading (I can think of one who might be...) a character based on McKinnon writes itself.

Navratilova = Legend
McKinnon = Legend in h* own underpants

Thank you for those links Rowantrees, really appreciate you linking to them.. I’m reading up as much as I can as it’s a horrendous situation.

Bienchien- H* is a great pronoun!

if only women just tried harder...

....
If you know sport, you know this beyond a reasonable doubt: there is an average 10-12% performance gap between elite males and elite females. The gap is smaller between elite females and non-elite males, but it’s still insurmountable and that’s ultimately what matters. Translating these statistics into real world results, we see, for example, that:

Just in the single year 2017, Olympic, World, and U.S. Champion Tori Bowie's 100 meters lifetime best of 10.78 was beaten 15,000 times by men and boys. (Yes, that’s the right number of zeros.)

The same is true of Olympic, World, and U.S. Champion Allyson Felix’s 400 meters lifetime best of 49.26. Just in the single year 2017, men and boys around the world outperformed her more than 15,000 times.

This differential isn’t the result of boys and men having a male identity, more resources, better training, or superior discipline. It’s because they have an androgenized body.

....

law.duke.edu/sports/sex-sport/comparative-athletic-performance/

Bienchien- H* is a great pronoun!

I've seen 🍆her🍆 on Twitter which I thought was quite good...

Obviously that is to indicate that she likes aubergines 😶

These could also be used🥕🍄🌽🥒
In case the we start getting banned for using aubergines

Ooh Itsallgoingtobefine

I thought you meant you had seen the 🍆
on twitter. I think I've got there now.

This appears to be a photo of the cycle falling onto the path. Looks suspiciously like the other cyclists are laughing too.

Peter f*ing Tatchell sticks his oar in. (Apropos of nothing, I'm sure.)

"Martina #Navratilova tweets (& then deletes) rant about #trans athletes She promises to educate herself. Her tweet was wrong but she's apologised. Plus one misguided tweet does not cancel out her decades of equality activism. Time to forgive & move on "

twitter.com/PeterTatchell/status/1076863772646625281?s=19

How kind of Peter to allow us all to be able to move on. Thanks Pete!

Ah, I see Tatchell has his own thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3459000-Tatchell-is-a-patronising-arse

@AlecTrevelyan006

The problem is A|lec, that we can produce facts about sport and use science to explain physiology, but the transwomen and their supporters will either refuse to debate, shout "transphobe" at anyone who presents undeniable truths, or simply say that there is not enough data available to prove that men have a clear advantage over women when it comes to sport.
The media also seems to be supporting them, and the sports main governing bodies have caved in - IOC, UCI, FIFA etc.
This article telles of two transwomen who could have competed at athletics for Team GB at the 2016 Olympics, but decided not to. Their names and past are known to the governing bodies but not to other competitors - I believe that is cheating and just as bad as state sponsored doping.

www.papermag.com/gender-games-2577537339.html?rebelltitem=7#rebelltitem7

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Following on from AndyOldLabour's post, this is a contemporaneous Daily Mail article that annoyed me at the time:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3671937/Transgender-British-athletes-born-male-set-make-Olympic-history-competing-games-women.html