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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan and the School Saga

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dillydallyXX · 24/11/2018 09:50

Lily Madigan has been self-praising again, with more details about how they "sued" their school.

They hired a "team of solicitors", to "advice" Lily and the "principle" gave in on all their "demands".

The truth is slightly different.

Lily arrived at school wearing basically a boob tube. They were sent home because it was against uniform policy. Any girl wearing that for school would have been asked to change or go home. It's clear Lily was looking for a reason to kick things off.

Lily was not "made to wear a man's suit". They were asked to adhere to the school uniform - like any pupil. The girls wear a blazer too and can wear a skirt or trousers; many girls choose to wear trousers and the blazer.

Lily organised a petition. It was an ONLINE petition, quite different to a paper one. The support Lily claimed she had is very difficult to prove.

The school's staff tried very hard to placate Lily. They had meetings with their mother, the pastoral care team, etc - and got nowhere. It apparently caused distress to Lily's younger sister who was at school.

Lily contacted a solicitor in London. Because of the Equality Act the school did have to cater to transgender pupils - and when the school was informed of their obligations they changed their policy in accordance to the Act.

There was no suing of the school. There was no legal action, certainly no "legal battle", as Lily repeatedly claims.

There was no victimisation of Lily. Afterwards, the school said they had tried very hard for Lily and their words and actions had been deliberately twisted.

And now Lily still says that "they won", they "got it all", and that they did all this behind their parents' backs, and then "embarked on a media tour".

Lily's parents knew about it all, right from the day Lily was sent home.

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R0wantrees · 08/01/2019 22:01

Yes, I've seen this today and can't decide whether it's a good or bad article.

EverlastingGodstopper I sat and looked at it on and off for quite a while before linking it.

I thought it had, what seemed to me, a pretty accurate chronology
though and collation of tweets.

Both the points you made I sat looking at with a Hmm face!

R0wantrees · 08/01/2019 22:03

oops, pressed too soon.
Take good care of you, Brew Cake

AncientLights · 08/01/2019 22:07

EverlastingGodstopper Louise, please look after yourself. Flowers

Ereshkigal · 08/01/2019 22:24

Louise Thanks

LangCleg · 08/01/2019 22:51

Louise Flowers

andyoldlabour · 08/01/2019 23:48

@EverlastingGodstopper

Louise, I hope that you can take all the support of this forum to support you and give you hope. Social media is at the moment a cesspit of vile and unregulated comments, so step away for a while to chill out and regroup.
Come back stronger and ready when you can.
My missus and I support you.

OlennasWimple · 09/01/2019 12:57

No-one "embraces" being a TERF, do they? It's complete horse shit to try to claim that anyone revels in being called a term of abuse

I'm not a lesbian, because I am a woman who is attracted to men. I've had a few occasions in my life where that has meant I have been excluded from certain groups and activities (hello student politics in the early 90s....). But somehow I have managed to cope, without feeling enraged at a whole group of people who dont' fancy me and often don't want to involve me in their every moment. Even if I say the words "I identify as a lesbian", it just isn't true.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 14:41

I don’t ‘identify as’ anything. I am or I’m not (or pretend to be). I agree 🐎 💩

andyoldlabour · 09/01/2019 16:06

I have never seen this Channel 4 interview before. How can you possibly smile at spmeone in politics when they say that they would be perfectly happy to "no platform" people who disagree with them?

www.channel4.com/news/lily-madigan-the-more-diverse-women-are-in-political-roles-the-better

dillydallyXX · 09/01/2019 16:40

Because Madigan is "trans", so they are a protected species and must be coddled and treated with kid gloves at all times - while said Madigan continues their aggressive witch hunts against women.

The latest, again, is Jess Phillips. She displeases La Madigan. She offends La Madigan. So, La Madigan must attack!

The "Slut" T-shirt has made a reappearance too, it seems. Madigan is photographed looking very aggressive and malevolent in a photo, while simulating kicking something.

Lily Madigan and the School Saga
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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 16:46

Sorry but the description of that photo did make me snigger.

TinselAngel · 09/01/2019 18:13

LM thinks LM has more sway in the Labour movement than Jess Phillips MP!Grin

(Excellent news about Jess if it's true).

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 18:24

‘A sex worker exclusionary’ whazzat then?

BertrandRussell · 09/01/2019 18:30

“Sex worker exclusionary”

Not thinking that the commodification of women is empowering.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 18:33

Uhuh...

EverlastingGodstopper · 09/01/2019 18:46

THANK YOU ALL!

I'm still hanging in there. Emerging from my cave a little today and currently involved in a Twitter dispute with the editor of the College Fix article. Sweartogod, every time I log onto Twitter I find myself in a parallel fucking universe.

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 09/01/2019 19:14

You are doing great. Cake Flowers Gin

It's interesting what LM said about knowing they were trans at 14. There's receipts on the KF threads that seem proof to the contrary.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 19:15

Oh my, what a surprise. I’m so shocked and devastated. How will I ever trust a single word I read on social media ever again? I’m speechless.

dillydallyXX · 09/01/2019 19:20

In one of their manic phases, Madigan has also implied they are not trans.

They were born a woman - so why would they need hormones or "bottom surgery", they mooed.....

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/01/2019 19:20

I can’t bothered to try to get my head abound all that.

BreakWindandFire · 09/01/2019 19:37

Is Madigan trying to get Jess Philips sacked as a conference speaker now? Plus ça change. Hmm

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 09/01/2019 19:50

Hey, Louise.

Keep on fighting the good fight!

dillydallyXX · 09/01/2019 20:05

This just shows how utterly thick and/or duplicitous Madigan is.

They say their sex is female - and the evidence for this is a photo of their trans passport, with F for Female.

They are literally so thick they don't know the difference between 'sex' and 'gender'.

Why won't Madigan tweet a photo of their birth certificate?

Because they are male there, as the 2016 law does not allow birth certificates to be changed, only passports.

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R0wantrees · 09/01/2019 20:54

A lot of transgender people will use the fact that their passport, driving licence etc says 'f' or 'm' as proof that they are female/male despite their birth certificate and biology demonstrating the opposite.

In the CBBC program, 'I am Leo' a passport with changed sex marker (in this case 'M' from 'F') is seen as really significant and proof that Leo is a boy and no longer a girl.
"I just want to get that magic M for male"

Ereshkigal · 09/01/2019 20:59

They say their sex is female - and the evidence for this is a photo of their trans passport, with F for Female.

For Madigan the letter F on an official document is going to be enough, as it is for Muscato.