Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk

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Apologies if there is already a thread about this. Channel 4, 10.00 tonight. 'Stella O'Malley considers the huge rise in numbers of young people embarking on gender transition, through the prism of the gender identity issues she experienced when she was a child.' According to The Times no TRA groups were prepared to contribute to this . Stella feels this may be because she was a tomboy as a young girl, (even insisting she was a boy until she hit puberty), and is now a confident, mature woman who believes that nowadays she would be pressured to go down the transition route. Sounds like it will be worth watching.

I like this one. If only the host was an expert in queer theory.....

It was biased crap. Sorry. She should leave this sort of thing to Louis Theroux. He manages to stay focused somehow.

Sparkly feathers have been ruffled.

Brilliant. Those parting words: "They're lost and they're being led"

A handful of spoilt rich males who all like Jess Bradley are currently complaining.

God those awful students. So sorry for the adult academics who are faced with these entitled brats. Miranda Yardley's observations were spot on.

I'm not on Twitter, can anyone repost a few bits on here ?
You can see a selection of tweets here - you don't need to be logged in.
twitter.com/hashtag/transkids?src=hash

I can't read most of them because I'm blocked 🙄

They're lost and they're being led

Find a confused and unhappy teenager and offer them a magic solution for their teenage angst. Why can't more people see this for the grooming it is?

I've watched the programme. ( I'm a 70 plus year old TS woman, of many many years standing. A really worthwhile programme; I've recorded it so I will watch again. Very much needed, a programme like this. I thank ( insert god of choice) that I am not one of the people who have to make assessments as whether each case should go forward, should go for blockers, or will fade away. It is obvious, I think, that there is something or things behind the spike in young would be transitioners; contagion seems likely to be in there somewhere.

As someone said, it was good to see the effect on a family/ spouse. TBF, they were making the case that if someone doe snto "transition" young, it may come back to bite them and others around them at a later date. The family concerned ( and most of us know them or of them) conducted themselves with admirable dignity.

Can you see them if you log out, Orchid? I can see them and I'm not on twitter.

Oh yes, thank you! That opens in my browser. Though I have to say I haven't missed I did Willoughby's tweets much

I thought it was very well done.

As for that plonker with the dark wavy hair and the baby dribble bib around the face at the protest...

Troubling that a third of referrals are for autistic children. Children who struggle to fit into the world.

Finally we see an empathetic and fair portrayal. Not balanced sadly as none of the tra spokespeople or organisations pushing positive affirmation were willing to participate, wonder why? Enough said.

Thank you C4.

oh shit i forgot this was on Does anyone know when/if it will be repeated?

You can watch it on All4, Helena
www.channel4.com/programmes/trans-kids-its-time-to-talk

Wrong thread or not julj70, that seems to be the new TRA mantra "You are reducing women to their sexual organs. That's very misogynistic etc"

Seen that twice today.

julj70

Please don't be so silly.

Both men and women are principally HUMAN BEINGS. The difference between them is their reproductive class. That doesn't "reduce" anyone to anything.

Both bread and cake are bakery products. The difference between them is that cake contains sugar, and bread does not. This doesn't "reduce" cake to sugar. It obviously also contains flour. But that is not the difference between cake and bread, as so does bread.

Whichever reproductive class you are in you can be a writer, or an scientist, or a dancer. You can be a heroic person or a horrible one. To say that you cannot be these things if you are female, because your role is to just to be fucked and to reproduce, would be to really "reduce people to their genitals". But you can be any of these things, not because of your sex, but because you are a human being.

What is it about the word "reductive" that it is so often accompanied by such inane thinking?

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6415023/Psychotherapist-says-young-people-gender-dysphoria-NOT-encouraged-transition.html

Good programme. So glad Channel 4 showed it this evening.

Catsize made a good point earlier. People who feel they somehow don't quite fit are often candidates for thinking" ah, so THAT is my problem". If I sound heartless, my comment is based on a career in special needs education.

“So you're saying that women (and presumably also men) are defined by their reproductive organs. That's quite a reductive definition isn't it? Rather a patriarchal one at that”

Yes Jul - biology and reproductive role -is what defines you as male/man and female/women. Not some inner essence woo woo stuff — just biology and biology/sex affects women and girls hugely in a totally different way it affects men/males.

www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2018/11/21/trans-kids-time-talk-review-compassionate-divisive-addition/

Do you have a share token?

Both bread and cake are bakery products. The difference between them is that cake contains sugar, and bread does not

Haa you've obviously never eaten American bread.... (Sorry for sligh derail).

No sorry Coughed, I just read it without needing one

Like other pps I also thought Debbie's wife looked terribly sad and unable to speak honestly. Quite heartbreaking really to see her in the flesh and remain silent to some of the questions. Smells like the same old facilitating women do endlessly for men. Sorry Debbie if you're reading this but that's how I saw it. Women facilitating and compromising their needs for men, over and over and over again.