Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk

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Apologies if there is already a thread about this. Channel 4, 10.00 tonight. 'Stella O'Malley considers the huge rise in numbers of young people embarking on gender transition, through the prism of the gender identity issues she experienced when she was a child.' According to The Times no TRA groups were prepared to contribute to this . Stella feels this may be because she was a tomboy as a young girl, (even insisting she was a boy until she hit puberty), and is now a confident, mature woman who believes that nowadays she would be pressured to go down the transition route. Sounds like it will be worth watching.

"She had taken a path I could have taken, and I wondered silently, had I taken a path she could have taken?"

Beautiful and sad.

Busy earlier so I've recorded it.

Trans Twitter is in absolute meltdown.

Why are they in meltdown?

Aren’t they always in meltdown?

I'm not on Twitter, can anyone repost a few bits on here ?

Well done Channel 4! A thoughtful, sensitive look at the issue through the eyes of someone who similarly 'identified' as a child, but who went on to accept and identify with their natal sex.

Really made evident both the very human stories, but also the intransigence, intolerance and lack of ability to debate in any meaningful way on the part of many TRA's.

Having also watched the 'debate' in parliament this morning - the lack of willingness on the part of, even female, MPS to listen to reasoned objections to self ID was also very evident. There is no reasonable or coherent argument, that is why.

What pombear said:

Just because we see and recognise, sometimes in our own experiences in our journey to adulthood, the 'lost' and the 'led,' and the attack on women and children's rights from those from a different quarter .

Is it the trans men's female conditioning that made them willing to actually engage in conversation?

Nice

Twitter is acting as if Stella is completely anti trans and missing the actual question she was asking about early transitioning. That wouldn't fit their narrative of course.

Sorry, wrong thread.

That was a very good documentary. I really liked Stella.

I’d seen some camera phone footage from Bristol before, but hadn’t realised exactly how bad it was. That was truly scary.

IW saying something about Nazis. Several saying how awful it was but in next sentence they couldn't watch it.

Just relflecting on this programme again, and thinking about particular contributors.

Debbie - was great to hear from you. But I'm sure you, because you're an obviously empathetic and intiuitive contributor, may want to encourage your wife to external support networks right now? Something didn't sit right for me about her contribution - I may be really wrong in that interpretation, but Debbie's wife, hope you're getting the support you need ongoing to deal with the issues discussed in tonight's programme.

psst - transwidow thread? for support?

Condescending? I found her very compassionate and willing to listen.

Have emailed Channel 4 to thank them for airing this.

I think focusing on transmen was really clever because it made it completely personal for Stella and also took the heat out of it. How anyone can call that transphobic is beyond me. Well, basically as she said, you're not allowed to ask any questions.

Telling how none of the woke protesters were actually trans as far as I could see. They were a bunch of middle class 'queer' students

Repeal

Just the norm, men cannot deal with women talking about anything they don't like. Even if those 'men' idenitfy themselves as being 'women'.

Instinctual reaction - throw accusations and accusations.

(Women: Sigh. Get on with talking reality)

The public needs to see TRAs in action. Not just on Twitter, though that's bad enough - in the flesh. Once you do it changes everything, and makes it much harder to deny the actual gender dynamics going on.

Julj70:

Nobody is saying women are defined purely by their genitalia - no! We are all human beings and our identities coalesce around various different things, and shift and change over time. Our bodies ( or genitalia as you put it) are what makes us male or female, men or women.

I am saying this with love, the Hayton family are very loving, I feel they all deserve outside support.

My heart breaks for all interviewed and for feminists trying to talk.

The whole thing is tragic and I am disgusted at the MPs especially and males interrupting, disrupting Heather today and previously.

I am feeling quite churned up after watching that.
It was touching to have the focus on females.
Also the protest at The Jam Jar was pretty shocking. The protestors seemed so young and easily led. I'd be so embarrassed if they were my kids.

Thanks for showing everyone who you are, Sienna!

Jack Appleby in righteous wrath mode:

twitter.com/jackappleby/status/1065376289635426310

Andy Lewis:

The @Channel4 documentary on now about Trans Kids is very engaging and sympathetic. Astonishing that the main players acting to promote policies on this issue refused to taker part. They want to deny at all costs that this is a nuanced debate that needs to be had.

twitter.com/lecanardnoir/status/1065373876610351104

Janice Turner praising it:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1065342743231283200