Ffs lib dems

[QuentinWinters]

Just opened my inbox to this little gem from the lib dems. I'm going to resign my membership I think.

bittermints yes I know the libdems have their own fervent TRA cheerleaders. It probably is someone else. But the tone is very similar to Adrian which is unnerving ... maybe they go on courses.

I might write an essay about stalin, the stasi, totalitarianism, fascism, nationalism, gender cult, the failings of the press in the 21st century and the decline of democracy.

And clog up the voting booth for an hour whilst I write very small. Just four women in a polling station could reak havoc.

Lens, yes they do. It's called diversity training. At the end you come out talking like a robot chanting 'TWAW, TMAM, non binary is valid' in a really unconvincing, unenthusiastic and monotone manner.

orangesnake is going a grand job of putting my LD vote firmly in the bin!
Next time they come door knocking I shall have some questions about the difference between gender & sex & the rights of vulnerable women & girls to spaces & opportunities away from men.
LDs won’t listen and don’t care about women.

being anti-trans rights is fundamentally incompatible with being a Lib Dem.

Recognising biological sex is no more 'anti-trans' that recognising the tides or day and night. But useful to know it's incompatible with being a Lib Dem.

Ok this is mortifying.

I am a Lib Dem member and i thunderously disagree with Orange's

• views on self id
• approach to voter engagement
• total dismissal of women's concerns
• thought policing
• apparently being the young princeling who decides who "belongs" in the party

From Orange "they are free to disagree"

Uh huh www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3399104-Times-Lib-Dem-trans-activists-hounded-abuse-victim-Natalie-Bird-Article-refers-to-Zoe-OConnell-Sarah-Brown

Anyhoo. Lib Dems must sort ourselves out- this is not in line with LD values and is making us look like right tits with members and voters alike

There's some right tyrants in the middle of the LibDems are there not!

Fascinating to watch them roll out the same old script, fact free nonsense and the good old TWAW. I know men who are transexual, they know what they are, they agree it's crazy rubbish and not in their name. Why do pillocks like orange snake think we will take them seriously when they do this silly grandstanding. You have to laugh at them really. Daft behaviour. And to what end? It's so myopic.

There's some right tyrants in the middle of the LibDems are there not!

On a completely separate topic, how's the Green Party investigation progressing anyway?

oddly familiar yes...

lesbian trans women All hail the straight narcissistic men, what would we do without them?

being anti-trans rights is fundamentally incompatible with being a Lib Dem

Who exactly is anti trans rights? What rights do the trans community lack? Or at a more basic level who is even Trans?

The Lib Dem's had the chance to seize on this issue at the time the party is at an all time low and provide a reasonable response that reflected the legitimate concerns of many people who, whilst incredibly sympathetic to people suffering from gender dysphoria have valid points to make about the GRA, self ID and contradictions to the EA and implications wrt women's rights.

But no....and frankly as a party have absolutely no political traction or attraction as they continually skitter the political middle ground in a manner as accomplished as Bambi on ice.

Social convention and the real possibility of other women being in or about to enter the same room is a deterrent of sorts. Being able to just walk in unchallenged is No longer a deterrent.

Thus my violently abusive and pathologically jealous partner who wouldn't let me out of his sight in public didn't accompany me into the ladies'. Some respite. What do you think he would have done if he thought there might be male people in there, Orange?

I might write an essay about stalin, the stasi, totalitarianism, fascism, nationalism, gender cult, the failings of the press in the 21st century and the decline of democracy. And clog up the voting booth for an hour whilst I write very small. Just four women in a polling station could reak havoc.
Red you are a genius

to you Ereshkigal

Thank you, Anlaf.

Do you reckon OrangeSnake is actually Theresa May. She’s keen to get a few more votes......

Lols at orange snake
Hahaha 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
Crack on. You destroying libdems almost single handed

Littlbrowndog wins the thread again

yes damn those lib dems for trying to make trans people not kill themselves!! shame on them

Do we have to go there on the evidence based stuff and how the suicide thing goes against samaritarian guidelines by promoting a social contagion?

Really?

I thought we'd already covered this up thread.

Trans people who feel depressed and suicidal need mental health support, not me putting a twee Facebook photo frame on my profile pic.

I wonder if OrangeSnake has balls pickled in formaldehyde they want sucking?

Just thinking aloud.

There's been research done on suicide and war. Apparently the suicide rate in general goes down during war time. Its been attributed to people having a 'cause' to follow.

Personally I'm slightly dubious about this, because it comes down to methodology. Suicide rates rely on suicides being classified as suicide. In wartime, how do you decide that someone has committed suicide or has carried out 'an heroic act against the odds and in the face of danger' which resulted in their death?

Its impossible to tell.

So yeah, I think that argument is perhaps best just parked there.

I saw a transactivist suggest that black slaves who had a lower rate of suicide than transpeople did not face unsupportive family members and that might account for it, although to be fair they realised what they were saying and went on to say it wasn't a competition.