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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I’ve hit peak trans!

170 replies

BleakBetty · 24/10/2018 23:43

Thanks, ‘Dr’ Rachel McKinnon.

What made you hit peak trans, and why? Apologies if this has been done to death - new to this topic.

Do you think Rachel realised her agenda has spectacularly backfired and peak transing thousands? For the first time in my life I, a staunch labour voter, feel I have to rethink my political leanings and can no longer support a party that are choosing to collide in misogyny and support self ID.

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Noqont · 24/10/2018 23:45

I'm not sure that there was any one thing. Just reading loads and piecing it all together in utter disbelief. Welcome to #peaktrans.

BleakBetty · 24/10/2018 23:45

That first bit is all buggered up! Was supposed to read ‘Do you think Rachel REALISES her agenda has spectacularly backfired and IS peaktransing thousands?’

No idea how I screwed the whole sentence up 🤷‍♀️

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BleakBetty · 24/10/2018 23:47

I’m not sure I’m entirely thrilled to be part of the eyes-wide-open club! I’ve lost hours reading, researching and opinion forming, and I’m bloody pissed off Grin

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BleakBetty · 24/10/2018 23:48

Was also supposed to say collude, not collide! God damn phone!

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NotTerfNorCis · 24/10/2018 23:51

It blows my mind that anyone would defend McKinnon! Only people heavily invested in the ideology could do that. But they do.

Now100 · 24/10/2018 23:54

Just spoke to my adult son about self-id as proposed. Had quite a few "what?!" moments. He couldn't believe that birth certificates can be amended already. Said if self-id does come in he would get his birth certificate changed to Female as why wouldn't you.

Iused2BanOptimist · 24/10/2018 23:55

Here's another angry lady who has hit peak trans. She could teach Posie something about Gary rants. 
www.facebook.com/starla.dianas/videos/10217302041281443/

Iused2BanOptimist · 24/10/2018 23:56

Gary rants?? Angry rants!

arranfan · 24/10/2018 23:57

When you're ready, read this thread (skim read some sections as it's long but you'll recognise the parts where you want to dwell) and be ready to have scales fall from your scales as one poster expressed it:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3364094-Debbie-Hayton-in-the-Times

Noqont · 25/10/2018 00:04

I’m not sure I’m entirely thrilled to be part of the eyes-wide-open club! I’ve lost hours reading, researching and opinion forming, and I’m bloody pissed off

Lol. I've been reading solidly for about a year now. I came into it later than others here. Expect to lose many more hours / days/ months (years?) reading. It's important. There is so much to it. And it's utterly astounding. I'm pretty pissed off and angry too.

BettyDuMonde · 25/10/2018 00:08

Welcome to the other side of the Radicalisation Portal (tm)

Would you like a cup of tea? Most of us are on the gin though, tbf.

I’d been slowly traipsing to the summit for ages, starting with my son’s 6th form peers and their arse-about-tit-insistence that gender identity was innate and fixed but sex was just a social construct and finally exploding with rage the day that Cancer Research referred to women-requiring-smear-tests as ‘cervix havers’.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 25/10/2018 00:59

That was an epic rant lused. I’m not necessarily onboard with her spiritual beliefs, but enjoyed her take-no-prisoners approach to calling out bullshit.

OlennasWimple · 25/10/2018 01:09

I keep thinking I've peaked and then something else comes along...

YuhBasic · 25/10/2018 01:44

You know what I’m fed up reading stuff like “How are you going to know whether a TW who happens to pass is in the female toilets”

FFS you could say that about anything. Some people drive without a driving license. Let’s not bother making people pass a driving test then. After all some people will slip through the net and never get caught.

Let’s do away with laws altogether! 🙄

Twunk · 25/10/2018 01:45

Welcome!

I met a friend today who peak transed a few months ago. We discussed how, when the scales fall from your eyes, how suddenly so much falls into place about the oppression of women. She and I compared notes about how we view our whole lives, and wish we had this understanding before, when we were in our twenties, about how women and girls are treated.

We agreed that when it all first happens there is a phase of incredible anger and frustration - particularly as you lack the knowledge and confidence to verbalise it all. It’s really a very intense time. So be warned!

rightreckoner · 25/10/2018 07:18

I've been peaking for about 18 months. Gradual dawning thanks to the Guardian's reporting of the Lauren Jeska case. As with Rachel McKinnon, the effect was the opposite of the intention as the piece was so softly softly and gentle (towards this would be murderer) that it ended up opening my eyes to a horror in front of me that the Guardian was trying to make me feel friendly towards.

But now I am peak peak. I am incandescent with rage at mainstream media repeatedly getting groups of men on to talk about women whilst pretending to be women. I am wide eyed with fury and feel like rushing up to black activists to ask them how they survive the rage (and also how they have managed to ringfence their issues so much better - the BBC would never DARE to have a panel of white people discussing what it means to be black). I am sickened at the fetish stuff I see every day and at the utter corruption of the leaders of this group (I can't think of a single one that I would happily have round for a chat what with the indecent exposure blogger, the extreme porn apologist, the "suck dick and get tits early" school adviser, the Jimmy Savile's apprentice, the one with the rapist electoral agent....)

My issue now is what to do with all this stuff. It is on my mind all the time. It's a horrible realisation that the world is not what I thought it was. And so yes to Twunk - it's been a rough period of time. And not how I thought I would be spending my late 40s - dwelling on the corrupt power of men's sexual wants gone wrong.

EverardDigby · 25/10/2018 07:44

I've always been peak trans. I had to deal with male abuse all of my childhood and as a young adult and as a result I'm always hyper-vigilant so I'm pretty damn sure I can recognise a man when I see one.

TimeLady · 25/10/2018 07:57

rightreckoner

My issue now is what to do with all this stuff. It is on my mind all the time. It's a horrible realisation that the world is not what I thought it was.

I feel exactly the same. Raging. There's no other word for it.

Sarahjconnor · 25/10/2018 08:02

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Misteryise · 25/10/2018 08:15

I just joined the peak trans party after being explained to by a liberal man that gender is a construct and that feminism is about choice, therefore trans people can identify as whatever they like, before being called trans-exclusionary. I've just realised that all of the media outlets I read are towing the same line. Feeling pretty outnumbered now!

Sexnotgender · 25/10/2018 08:17

Welcome to sanity! When you see it you wonder how you could have missed it before.

oooompa · 25/10/2018 08:21

When I thought I was having a reasonable conversation with a TRA on twitter who seemed to want to listen to my opinion.

So I expressed my concern with self ID giving predatory men huge opportunity to gain access to vulnerable women and children, like my daughters.

I was just told to "stop being so hysterical".

I'm sorry but when it comes to the safety of my daughters, that concern is not hysterical.

Peaked even more when a transman told me to shut my fucking mouth, he didn't appreciate GIF-bombing him in response to his abuse  I've figured out the best way to respond to TRAs is with humour. They can't stand you ignoring their threats and you not engaging in their arguments.

Pamspeople · 25/10/2018 08:22

I made a list of things I could do, it helped me channel my anger. For example I rang my mps office and made an appointment to see them, it went really well and they need to know their constituents are pissed off about this. Otherwise all they hear is the rainbows and unicorns side of it, and don't get an insight into the reality of what's peaking us all

headinhands · 25/10/2018 08:32

I don't follow much of this trans thing but I did notice an advert for sanpro yesterday where it said 'being a woman isn't always about being soft and gentle' and I found myself thinking 'actually I'm neither of those but I have a womb so thanks anyway' does this mean I'm in the foothills? 😱.

JamPasty · 25/10/2018 08:41

God, where to start! Having a decent and kind male mate refer to women as cis women. I am not fucking cis. Seeing a bisexual friend promote the trans agenda all the freaking time, without realising the homophobic connotations.