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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRA incites hatred while exploiting victim

218 replies

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 12:49

It's on Twitter.

Thankfully the police in the location they have described their friend with the details of this assault are looking into it

Debbie Hayton getting flack for speaking the truth in their reply (saw it from following Debbie)

TRA incites hatred while exploiting victim
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Feminist4 · 25/10/2018 13:56

Prey, please! Don't deny trans people freedoms they need because of your fears. Dangerous men need a different strategy. Not a blanket denial of all trans people's freedoms.

Yambabe · 25/10/2018 14:09

Ah fuck it. I'm off to Bunbury, I hear they have a nice cafe there.

FekkoThePenguin · 25/10/2018 14:22

What would you call it when a man defines himself as a woman to be locked up with women and sexually assault them? They couldn't escape from him. Sounds pretty much like they were being hunted. One is too many.

If you say you are a feminist, start acting like one. If you see your child as a woman then protect them. Can you tell the dangerous men from the not dangerous ones?

What about the violent men who turn up at women's meetings to hurl abuse, threaten and try to stop them going ahead - are they 'dangerous men'? Some say they are women through. Who can judge if they really think they are - because biologically they are not.

At what point should a male born person be known as a woman? What should they have to do in order to have this happen? Should they try to look like a woman at least? Can a woman have a penis - should a woman have a big shaggy beard (yes I know you get some hairy women but they do tend to avoid the grizzly adams look)?

And freedom - whose freedom? To do what exactly and why? What is the motivation?

If you know this area so well - please explain how a male bodied person, who has no intention to take drugs or have surgery - or even have a shave, can ask to be called a woman?

Feminist4 · 25/10/2018 19:07

Old fashioned thinking. Science is ahead of you...
www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/

FekkoThePenguin · 25/10/2018 19:14

Uhuh. Now I know...

FloralBunting · 25/10/2018 19:24

Fekko, you do indeed. 'Science' is as elastic and mysterious a term as 'Woman'.

FekkoThePenguin · 25/10/2018 19:25

No elastic is what keeps my knickers up. Stretch it too far and it snaps

OlennasWimple · 25/10/2018 19:26

"Denial of freedoms" - hyperbole much? Is this the updated version of "the denial of rights to trans people"?

Feminist4 · 25/10/2018 22:41

This is the biology that you keep using as the basis of your arguments.

FekkoThePenguin · 26/10/2018 08:21

Bad old biology, confounding them with its bloody facts and logic. Grrrrr.

Feminist4 · 26/10/2018 08:43

Er no. Fekko. Science is proving your arguments wrong.

Micke · 26/10/2018 08:50

Er no. Fekko. Science is proving your arguments wrong.

Derail derail, derail.

I know that if DP and I bump uglies, it's me that gets pregnant, and it'll never, ever be him. Trying to make it all sound complicated when it's very simple is ridiculous.

And yes. This whole 'show my vagina' thing is also ridiculous - not least because it just can't easily be done. Unlike a penis. So I think we can all see what type of genitals this person was used to having.

FekkoThePenguin · 26/10/2018 08:56

Oh 'feminist'4 you are funny. 🙄

AngryAttackKittens · 26/10/2018 09:02

Once again I'd like to remind everyone of Germaine Bunbury's advice on engaging with those whose intentions may not be entirely sincere.

Feminist4 · 26/10/2018 09:27

My motives are absolutely clear. Stop kicking a small marginalised and under represented group and spreading hate.

littlbrowndog · 26/10/2018 09:29

💪 kittens

AngryAttackKittens · 26/10/2018 09:30

(Offers littlbrowndog custard creams)

Juells · 26/10/2018 09:35

She showed him her vagina & managed to escape

When I'm feeling gloomy I just have to think of those words and start laughing. What's even funnier is all the men people on twitter who can't see why women find it amusing.

ShotsFired · 26/10/2018 10:12

Juells do you think she ran off while showing it? In a sort of backwards shimmy?

Or did she do a crab position and scuttle away? (perhaps sideways)

Or did she adopt a Moulin Rouge-esque bend over/flip up her skirt then leg it?

We need answers!

ShotsFired · 26/10/2018 10:15

It all reminds me of the question about how would a dog wear trousers Grin

(I am joking because I don't for one second think this actually happened in the real world, not because I think the idea of a woman being assaulted is amusing. Just to be clear for all the people out there who will seek to twist my words)

TRA incites hatred while exploiting victim
FekkoThePenguin · 26/10/2018 10:42

under represented group really? In what way? I see an awful lot of transwomen in the media and in politics these days - more than I see, say, disabled people. Transmen are positively invisible - maybe not so much in academia though.

No hate here either - but I don't particularity like people who use threats and violence to try to bully people into saying what they believe to be a lie. I don't care how people dress (but please don't confuse gender ID with sex) or who they fancy/sleep with (obviously within the bounds of law).

But you can't tell me that up is down, day is night or a man is a woman. This is the root of the 'hate' - womens' rights being attacked by men who claim to be women (but seem to really hate them).

I'm sure your kids aren't like this - and if you genuinely see all your kids as your daughters, don't you want to protect all of them?

Open your eyes and look at the intent of these groups - follow the money too. Who gains? What is their motive? Who is controlling the social media, supplying money to pressure groups and 'charities', protecting people in positions of power and influence who seem to be teflon coated (can say and do what they like, post implicit threats on social media, break rules - lie - get caught out then brazen it out?

BeyondAdultHumanFemale · 26/10/2018 10:59

It gets even more confusing when - if taking at the twitter OPs word that she a butch lesbian - she would have likely had trousers on. Now to get anywhere near a clear view, they'd need to be down to her ankles.

Two things you should always remember when confronted out alone in the dark, by a threatening man with a knife:

  • those body parts that he may have nasty intentions about. Get them out.
  • while doing so, make absolutely sure to incapacitate yourself so that if he is not satisfied by you showing your vag, you cannot run away.

🙄

QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 12:56

The Twitter OP has repeatedly offered to show her genitals to random people.

twitter.com/AnneBevan1/status/855461818512420867
twitter.com/AnneBevan1/status/855469925674229760
twitter.com/Akheloios/status/931495760578957312
twitter.com/sonnlich/status/914420921749864448

(note, all replies to the OP, but the posts prior to around May by this person have been deleted)

FekkoThePenguin · 26/10/2018 12:56

Who does that?

AspieAndProud · 26/10/2018 13:38

Or did she do a crab position and scuttle away? (perhaps sideways)

Spider walk - like in The Exorcist

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