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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRA incites hatred while exploiting victim

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selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 12:49

It's on Twitter.

Thankfully the police in the location they have described their friend with the details of this assault are looking into it

Debbie Hayton getting flack for speaking the truth in their reply (saw it from following Debbie)

TRA incites hatred while exploiting victim
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QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 18:22

So one of the accounts involved in this has just re-tweeted "support trans rights or else', with the image of an anime girl with a real girl pointing towards the viewer.

Threats to murder terfs are pretty much par for the course at this point.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 18:22

Sorry I made a mess of that sentence

"So one of the accounts involved in this has just re-tweeted "support trans rights or else', with an image of an anime girl with a real gun pointing towards the viewer."

Datun · 24/10/2018 18:27

"So one of the accounts involved in this has just re-tweeted "support trans rights or else', with an image of an anime girl with a real gun pointing towards the viewer."

Juells · 24/10/2018 18:29

if we pre-emptively show him our vaginas.

😅

BlackeyedGruesome · 24/10/2018 18:33

Pronunciation of Leicester: lie- sess- ter.

HTH

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 18:40

@BlackeyedGruesome not Lie-cis-ter(f) ???? 😉

If one of those accounts has tweeted that, you just couldn't make it up could you? Well they could, obviously

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QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 18:49

Said person talks constantly about being a lesbian:

twitter.com/justmizuyuki/status/1032827945537003520

The link on their Paypal linked on their twitter goes to an 'Alice Hoffman' in Irvine, California. Strangely there doesn't seem to be an Alice Hoffman in Irvine, California. Perhaps they have a previous name.

This whole thing smells, and not like vagina.

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 18:55

I don't believe that is the alleged victim

I also don't really think we should be looking for the alleged victim though

However there is definitely an agenda and it's not to bring the attacker off the streets to prevent them from checking our weaponised gatekeeping tools of rejection are authentic at knifepoint whilst inebriated

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nauticant · 24/10/2018 19:00

I don't believe that is the alleged victim

That's my understanding too. Apparently the @justmizuyuki account put up a tweet with a screen shot of a comment from the alleged victim.

I left my searching at that. There's too much that's off with this business.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 19:05

"I don't believe that is the alleged victim "

Nobody said it was the alleged victim, very clearly not being in California, rather than Leicester.

I was pointing out that this person, who is a vile US TRA, is one of the small group involved with publicising this incident.

I haven't seen any victim posting, to comment on who they are.

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 19:13

Ah ok sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by said person

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SunsetBeetch · 24/10/2018 20:28

Twitter thread of screenshots showing contradictions in the story and a very, shall we say, prescient tweet, made on 19 October.

twitter.com/inanna62/status/1055166036088041472?s=19

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 20:55

It is strange isn't it @SunsetBeetch that the BBC was blamed for making this likely to happen

And then it did. Exactly that way, Just days later

They have some really awful luck

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FloralBunting · 24/10/2018 20:59

Crikey, it must be really unsettling for someone who distrusts the rozzers to be attacked and discover she has the gift of second sight all at the same time. It'd be a great idea for a work of fiction.

Oh.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 21:18

SunsetBeetch that image is wrong, the '12 year old' is a Californian TRA, not the alleged victim.

Regarding the timestamps, 10:26 23rd October is 10:26 GMT-7, i.e. 6:26pm BST. Leicester sunset was 5:53pm on 23rd October.

The victim on 7:52pm 19th October said

"For every transgender woman there's bound to be a hell of a lot of cisgender women who are androgynous. Thanks, BBC, for ensuring that we get harassed and have people demand to see our vaginas.

Transphobia doesn't just hurt trans women, it hurts ALL women, god damn it."

And on 23rd October 6:36pm

"Leicester is on a roll of awful stuff happening at dark and tonight it was my turn.

Drunk guy started asking if I was a boy or a girl. Turned out to say something, saw he had a knife. He then started asking to see my "dick" and - not wanting to get stabbed, he saw my vagina."

She also said this on 11th September:

"I'm intersex. Someone saw my vagina once before I had it fixed, and the experience was so mortifying that I didn't go near a pool for years afterwards.

Even though it all looks 'normal' now it's still hard to get over."

A month later in response to this comment:

"Was stunned at how common intersex births are (and horrified at how many are quietly "corrected")."

she said

"I'm personally not happy that there are babies being born - in 2018 - who will get "corrected" at birth because of a harmless variation, and are then kept in the dark about it.

It's mutilation and far too few people know about it."

For someone who is intersex she is remarkably misinformed:

"~1.7% of people are intersex to some degree (via @onepoint7org), and 0.2% of people have mixed genital tissue. The only country in the world which has banned mutilating ("correcting") intersex people at or close to birth is Malta"

0.2% of people do NOT have 'mixed' genital tissue.

"Also, intersex people exist and have always existed - with varying reactions across different times and cultures - so..... there's a lot more that makes us alike than makes us different is what I'm saying here."

I wonder if she forgot that she was identifying as intersex between September and October?

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 21:20
Hmm September 11th: "I'm intersex. Someone saw my vagina once before I had it fixed, and the experience was so mortifying that I didn't go near a pool for years afterwards.

Even though it all looks 'normal' now it's still hard to get over."

October 17th:
"They also never acknowledge that intersexuality is around 2% of the population, with around 10% of people who are intersex being visibly so - which usually gets "fixed" by mutilative surgery as an infant in order to make them look "normal""

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 21:23

Hasn't someone also pointed out that intersex orgs have specifically asked them not to refer to themselves as cis?

I have no idea if that is true... but quite interesting if it is

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nauticant · 24/10/2018 22:28

Reading that twitter account is dispiriting. I hope she gets a firmer grip on reality.

OlennasWimple · 24/10/2018 22:30

One might have thought that someone who has undergone genital surgery would know the proper terminology for their bits

Feminist4 · 24/10/2018 22:32

Ooh there are some spiteful comments on here.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 22:38

So I would just like to point out that this in fact a transwoman.

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PObB87cK4soJ:namebrandlindsay.com/2014/08/12/why-some-peoples-minds-try-to-kill-them/&strip=1&vwsrc=0

"Petya L.B.
This article is eight months old – yet I find myself constantly coming back to it.

I’ve dealt with a severe mood disorder for as long as I can remember – extremes of mood greater than almost anyone else I know – and it was only a couple of years ago that I was finally diagnosed with cyclothymia – though in my non-medical inexperience I’m not so sure of the accuracy of that. Cyclothymia’s diagnostic criteria don’t encompass major depression. Nor suicidal ideation. Nor attempts.

I used to be teetotal. I didn’t trust myself with alcohol. But what I found was that getting drunk, smashed drunk, drowned out the self-loathing, the existential misery (of which being trans is a large part) – a few hours of sweet relief in a drug-induced oblivion. Unable to have depressive thoughts. Unable to have any thoughts at all."

If you scroll over the name Petya LB there you can see the link

www.youtube.com/user/CriticCoreShow

This is a deleted Youtube channel, but a google for CriticCoreShow comes up with

"Not here any more
@CriticCoreShow
Moved to @TwoMileTower - this account is a placeholder. Hoorah."

@TwoMileTower leads directly to the account in our OP.

So it's another intersex-appropriating transwoman, but with a bonus of fake sexual assault claims.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 22:48

According to their Twitter (tweets now deleted), they had surgery on their 'oversized labia' in in March of this year. I.e. MTF vaginoplasty.

Feminist4 · 24/10/2018 22:50

Sorry quite contrary Mary I don't see how you get to your deduction. Seems like the blog of a sad person to me. I don't see anything disingenuous.

QuietContraryMary · 24/10/2018 22:54

Feminist4, not sure if YOU are being disingenuous, but they said they were trans in early 2015. Now they are claiming to be a cis woman who has been assaulted by a man with a knife demanding to see their genitals.

Clearly these two statements are mutually exclusive.

Feminist4 · 24/10/2018 22:57

Where do they say that?

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