TG day of remembrance

[WomanAndProud]

When did 20 November become the transgender Day Of Remembrance?

Is there an International Women's Day of Remembrance? We bloody well need to get onto it given the numbers of us who are actually killed every single day. And given that the majority of women who are murdered are killed by men, that's anti-women (adult human female, to be clear - and that's not exclusionary, trans women don't want to be included anyway, they've made their own day they can't now complain about not being in ours).

And I do hope that they'll be remembering the trans people killed by other trans people. Because there are a fair few of them too.

as you appear to have totally disregarded anything I have put on this thread that we are remembering all dead not all are sex workers and many are not even on this list

Yes,but I think they want to conveniently not acknowledge that or at the least deny it.

the list and the day are not one and the same I remember its creation and the talks around if that was the sole purpose of our remberance and attending the first ones where especially in this country it was about the people around us that were no longer there and for a lot of the older ones the people they had lost along the way. many of us have stories and sometimes it is good to come together as a community and share them so they are not forgotten.

Who are the other dead transpeople apart from sex workers?

to look at the list it's got a website they are named ans some have causes next to there names but we also remember others look. back on. this thread and actually read posts that do not agree with you for names of some

What's the website?

look up transgender day of rememberence pm. Google. tdor will be one of the top results. your welcome.

List of solely Americans killed in 2017 -
www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2018

List of all victims, by year and country - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people

List of solely victims of anti transgender crime -
tdor.info

From the website - The names on the list are people who died because of anti-transgender violence. In the past some have contacted TDoR to ask that suicides or domestic violence victims be added to the list, but the list is specific to those who died from anti-transgender violence.

What does ‘statistically I only have 4 years left to live’ even mean? That the average age a transwoman can expect to live is four years older than she is now?

That’s not how statistics work. The average life expectancy of a woman is about 70 years at birth.

That doesn’t mean that if you are 40 that you can only expect 30 more years because the longer you live the longer your life expectancy is.

When you are born you have a chance of dying in childhood. If you survive to adulthood then you aren’t going to be a victim of infant mortality and have to adjust your life expectancy accordingly. If you live to 40 your chances of living to 70 are very high. If you live to 69 your chance of living to 70 are are huge.

I think Munroe meant that the average age of a transwoman of colour is 35 (because of the high rates of transwomen murdered in South American countries) and presumably when they wrote that ridiculous tweet they were 31.

Bespin and Earlywalker, I’m with you. The views of many posters here are deplorable. It seems to be a small group though, that are vociferous and pop up time and time again to spread their vile beliefs.

But people seem to think that it’s all been constructed to gain sympathy so they can get in our toilets... that’s the issue, yes?

No. It isn't.

The disingenuity of your arguments makes me grit my teeth.

There’s a surprise f4

Deplorable disgusting blah blah
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Tell me what is your issue then? Becuase all I’ve done is repeat what’s been said and question it. Albeit substituted ‘woman’s spaces’ for toilets in the above quote.

I’d love a straight answer - how does a trans day of rememberance directly impact women’s rights?

Becuase that is what this is all about right, woman’s rights? None of you are transphobic are you? It’s all for the good of woman. So I’d love to know.

"I think Munroe meant that the average age of a transwoman of colour is 35 (because of the high rates of transwomen murdered in South American countries) and presumably when they wrote that ridiculous tweet they were 31."

This was complete bollocks though, it was usual TRA fake stats.

The stat they are using here is the average age at death of sex workers in one particularly violent part of South America (possibly Brazil as a whole, I don't really remember).

So it was ONLY transgender sex workers who had been found dead, and it wasn't the US, it was a part of South America, so not only does it have no relation to Munroe, it has no relation to Americans, nor to to South Americans, nor even to South American sex workers, because it was not 'life expectancy',

Awe have you tried Netmums they much nicer over there, although doubt your ended up being allowed to stay for long.

I did check another main parenting site they been blessed free of TRAs, cos I’m horrible meanie I can’t share the link.

Lastly a bit confused? That the understatement of the year I’m baffled as fuck at the current goings on from TRAs towards women. Just waiting to wake up to news Theresa May been suspended for transphobic speech by referring herself as a woman.

Like to leave thread on a happy note, so I sharing news I got notification my woman hoodie has been dispatched 🙌🏻

Bye, IKeepFlouncing shame you’re leaving so soon, you’ve been so vocal. I only had one question for you. After all, I responded to your things? Just wondering how the rememberance day directly impacts women’s rights? By leaving it seems as if you don’t want to answer my question, I’m sure it wasn’t deliberate. Hope the hoody helps to warm your cold heart

I haven’t noticed any so-called TRAs on here. The only poor behaviour is from the women on here who wish to exclude trans people.

Disgusting behaviour

The women on here are total wankas

I know right? Talking ill of the dead, saying people don’t deserve a rememberance day - disgusting.

Do you want to answer my question?

Talking ill of the dead

Who is talking ill of the dead? I will admit that I haven't seen some of the posts on this thread, but if people doing that then report it and I'm sure it will be deleted.

how does a trans day of rememberance directly impact women’s rights?
@earlywalker

It's not about women's rights, it's about being economical with the truth and spreading fear of crime.

The fear of crime is a cruel burden for transgender people. I know this because I have seen it and I have helped a family coping with a transgender child, to put the deaths, assaults, hate crimes and suicides into a perspective, based on facts, victim profiles, circumstances of cases, geographical areas and hotspots.

Having seen the impact of scaremongering on a young person's mental health, and the impact on a family who believed the myths and half-truths, I would ask the organisers to be more honest.

Why would you want to increase fear of crime and make transgender people believe that they are more at risk, when they are not?

The women on here are total wankas

@littlbrowndog not sure which "side" that's aimed at, but I can assure you I'm a woman (non trans) and agree with you that this thread is awful.
We're not all saying that there should be no day or why should there be one in the first place.

Dubious post. Doesn’t stack up at all- I am a parent if a trans daughter Pamayres and your post doesn’t ring true.