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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Completed the consultation- have YOU?

372 replies

poshme · 11/10/2018 15:50

I have just completed the online consultation.

Thank you to fairplayforwomen for the helpful guidance.

Once I got going I typed rather a lot!

It didn't take too long.

THERES ONLY A WEEK LEFT!!!

Do it today.

(Sorry can't link as I'm on my phone which keeps playing up!

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AbsintheFriends · 18/10/2018 21:13

I had got up to question 12 (I think) An hour ago I clicked on my email link to resume and it's taken me all that time to get back to where I was because the pages... load... SO... SLOWLY. (Please don't tell me if there was a 'go to' box, because if there was I didn't see it.)

I emailed to complain. I haven't got time for this! (literally - got to pick dd up in a min.)

AugustL · 18/10/2018 21:13

Sorry yes, 11pm tomorrow night, says at the top here

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004

I'll keep going anyway, want to get it done, not sure about the quality of my responses, and think I'm repeating myself, but...

minsmum · 18/10/2018 21:14

Done not as articulate as I would like but I was getting b ogged down at the end. It feels like I have just finished my homework

Okki · 18/10/2018 21:14

I'm going to try a bit later and
Hopefully won't be so slow. I've sent to 6 other people - though I was a bit nervous about doing so.

senua · 18/10/2018 21:21

I did mine today. It was sooo slow. I only hope it means lots of enraged women putting their two penn'orth in.

My replies got a bit repetitive. There was a lot of "stop conflating sex and gender" and "women don't have penises".

NorthernLurker · 18/10/2018 21:44

I did it at about 11.30 pm yesterday. It was running ok then. I didn't put very much but every no or yes will get counted

Emtwizzle · 18/10/2018 22:06

Done! Only took about 3 days

NorasBarnacle · 18/10/2018 22:10

I'm based in the Republic of Ireland. Is there any point in putting in a submission? Would it be accepted from a foreign country?

Pulltheotheroneitsgotbellson · 18/10/2018 22:14

Submitted mine a few days ago - took 4 hours for detailed submission - FPFW's guide was fantastic as a starter for ten and I added a lot of contemporary evidence like the Supreme Court's recent ruling, KW and rape of female prisoners and so on.

whiteroseredrose · 18/10/2018 22:19

DH and I both did the FPFW quick submission. PIL are doing it tonight as are a few friends (and one son!).

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 18/10/2018 22:20

Yes Nora it will be - they even accept submissions from children Hmm it's not restricted

whiteroseredrose · 18/10/2018 22:21

Ooh. 11pm tomorrow? I think I'm going to be brave tomorrow and spread the word about the fast submission. Nothing ventured and all that.

MyWeaponofChoiceisWords · 18/10/2018 22:23

Trying to but the site is on a go slow.

DarkDarkNight · 18/10/2018 22:23

Done yesterday using the FPFW info as guidance.

Okki · 18/10/2018 23:40

@Beesandfrogsandfleas - children
too? Hmm maybe my DC's will be filling it in tomorrow then!

GulagsMyArse · 18/10/2018 23:46

Done, Jesus, that was like pulling teeth it was so slow earlier this evening and it lost my last really long last answer earlier this week. Been trying to get back on it for 2 days, but the pages would not load.

Done, Done, Done !!

secretskillrelationships · 18/10/2018 23:47

OMG that was painful. I would really like to have gone back through it and refined my response but it has taken me all evening to get to the last 3 questions having started it weeks ago and then stalled when I realised that I think the 2004 Act should be repealed. Finally started filling in the rest this afternoon.

Did feel like a bit of a rant by the end though! I've included my name and said it could all be published. I stand by everything I've said but my name is distinctive so I'm hoping it won't come back to bite me.

EmilieDuChatelet · 19/10/2018 00:15

Got there in the end. Some of the sentences were a bit short and snappy. The site was so slow that I didn't feel that I could re-read and edit the whole 20 odd pages again.

It's submitted and I've written about my concerns and the glaring problems inherent in the process.

Good luck to all who are submitting tomorrow. Which is now today!

TheSunlightsCreepingIn · 19/10/2018 00:22

Done .. I can't believe any primary school children would be motivated enough to complete the survey .. it's very long !! But glad to add my opinion too

misscockerspaniel · 19/10/2018 00:40

The website has sped-up and I have finally ben able to submit mine - yay Smile

nellieellie · 19/10/2018 00:43

Just finished, took flipping ages. Something up with the website.....

rosaprimula · 19/10/2018 00:43

I did mine last week...but daughter and 7year old grans-daughter did one too. Actually a good exercise for my Gdd (who has been a little unhappy at school 'because most of the girls just want to be pretty and sassy'...so my daughter felt it was pertinent to include the thoughts of a young girl since children are under extreme pressure. The systemic failure of social policy, housing, employment, environmental threat and education has somehow been swept aside under a welter of personal labels, definitions and horrible attempt to diminish children's anxieties and distress as individual mental health issues. I call BS.

MindTheMinotaur · 19/10/2018 01:09

I'm done, it started working in the last few minutes. Too late for wine?

NerdyBird · 19/10/2018 01:48

I've done mine just now, site ok as less traffic at this time. I looked at the 1-click option but wanted my responses to be individual so filled it in directly. I did say I don't think it's been fully thought through and referred to the absence of impact assessments and seeming reliance on people to do the right thing rather properly protect safe spaces for women.

My comments may not be as eloquent as some, but my experience in government tells me that they may not be taken into account anyway (sometimes only the yes/no numbers are considered) and that if it can be got through parliament it will be despite clear disagreement.

When I worked in government my department did a consultation that mainly applied to local authorities. They all replied to say the proposal would create a financial burden on them and be meaningless to recipients. Minister responsible decided to go ahead anyway. That consultation response was rewritten so many times as the policy team struggled to find a way to say, we're doing it anyway despite everyone objecting. It was a much smaller issue than this and has subsequently been done away with.

FermatsTheorem · 19/10/2018 07:26

Yes, got it working at last (yay for early mornings...)

I may have been a bit more terse and less diplomatic than I would have been had I had more time.

Now - Janice Turner, James Kirkup, Andrew Gilligan, the Mail, the Telegraph, Private Eye...

We will need FOI requests on this. What are the precise breakdowns? How many people were broadly in favour as compared to how many were opposed to the proposed changes? Actual percentages. (We must not let politicians off with weasel phrases like "responses were positive broadly speaking.")

We need to know how they ensured that the survey was filled in by people in the UK - I can imagine that there will have been a lot of TRAs in America trying to fill this in. (The timing of some of our visitors on this site who pop up overnight to "plop" on threads suggests we have an audience on the west coast of America, for instance).

We need to know what they are actually going to do by way of looking at critical responses.

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