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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alison Moyet

218 replies

Penny1976 · 03/10/2018 14:11

Welcome to the sisterhood.

"I am thankful for activists both pro and anti women’s rights.
You have focussed my mind with your love and your hate.
I am officially radicalised.
#Feminist"

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DayMay · 06/10/2018 08:09

Politicians and famous people should watch the film 'The Post' that's what is needed.

DayMay · 06/10/2018 08:10

Wrong thread

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/10/2018 09:15

Thanks, Jonny. You won't be impressed, but, I have developed a massive crush on you. Thank you for what you are doing, hope you and all your brave chums are doing ok.

I signed, anonymously, because there would be consequences if my work knew I am GC. I have every respect for people who publicly articulate this stuff - however briefly. I'm not brave enough to do it yet

SirVixofVixHall · 06/10/2018 11:29

Huge thanks to you Jonny, you are a calm voice of reason. I follow you on twitter and have seen the threats you’ve been getting. I’m so grateful to you for standing up for women and girls.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/10/2018 11:29

Oh and I have also signed, as has my husband.

LangCleg · 06/10/2018 11:38

Thanks, Jonny and please pass on my best to Alison.

Have signed, have commented. Was not anon!

hackmum · 06/10/2018 11:40

I feel really sad that Alison has been pressured in this way. It reminds me of the time that Salman Rushdie, in hiding from the fatwa, decided to convert to Islam in the hope that they would get off his case. It didn't work, of course.

FermatsTheorem · 06/10/2018 11:46

Jonny thanks for speaking out, and please pass on my best wishes to Alison - I hope she is okay. And you as well - those threats are awful.

(I had a tiny taste of this a few years back when I made the mistake of submitting a reader comment to the Graun in my own name, on a relatively minor feminist life-work balance issue - I got absolutely monstered BLT by the lefty woke dude-brocialists who couldn't bear a woman saying "you know what, no-one ever asks men these questions". I spent a couple of weeks waking up in the middle of the night with panic attacks. I can only imagine how utterly terrifying and genuinely threatening it must feel to be on the receiving end of a full-on TRA pile on.)

wingwarbler · 06/10/2018 12:33

Flowers and courage to all who have been threatened.

Many women have seen this first hand so we do understand the visceral nature of it. In time we can find the strength to look the abusers in the eye and see them for what they are and strip them of their power.

I think this document was linked to earlier in the thread but here is a link to the full PDF text. It states that some (an undefined number) males sought gender reassignment because they recognised that a female presentation would give them easier intimate access to children.

"seeking gender reassignment to facilitate or normalise paedophilia. This
latter small group described gender reassignment as a means by which to increase their intimate contact with children, which they viewed to be more socially acceptable in a female role."

We need to know more about this.

www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/6B5F217162ABD9B3189F2EB82787034E/S1758320900012695a.pdf/gender_reassignment_5_years_of_referrals_in_oxfordshire.pdf

wingwarbler · 06/10/2018 12:34

And I signed! (but was anon, sorry)

Datun · 06/10/2018 13:01

Fucking A JonnyBest. I hope Alison lurks on here and derives strength from not just the support and solidarity, but also the truth.

HerFemaleWoman · 06/10/2018 13:48

Can I just say Graham Linehan tweeted a reply saying mumsnet is the best. Please pass on best to everyone there.

It was in reply to a tweet saying he has lot of support over here. 💖

I have a lot of love for Jonny Best also who also has also been sent threatening email by twerp

I follow only the top worthy respectful people on twitter.

HerFemaleWoman · 06/10/2018 13:49

Erm to many use of also in my sentence 🤦🏼‍♀️

silentcrow · 06/10/2018 14:00

Baddiel has joined up ? That sounds like a tweet telling him to dump GL for his “phobia” .

I had a good look at this last night, and no, he hasn't said anything GC or in support of Glinner - it was a big "fuck off" to someone with "fox" in their name Hmm who wanted a group of comedians to denounce Glinner as a transphobe. Baddiel has a new book out and a show just going into previews, I think, so he'll not say anything right now, I don't think. He's taken a fair bit of stick around antisemitism lately, too. His show is "Trolls Not Dolls" and he was musing about including some "woke stasi", "like police" material.

Nothing conclusive there, playing very close to the chest - if there's anything to play beyond a visceral reaction to being told to join in a Macarthyite witch hunt for wrongspeak.

RedToothBrush · 06/10/2018 14:04

A male jewish celebrity fed up of being silenced by leftist trolls stands in solidarity with another group who are being targeted on social media in a similar way.

Why would he do that?

Angry

2018 is so fucked up. We have learnt nothing.

numptynuts · 06/10/2018 14:36

NAS have apologised to Mermaids and retracted Angry

Threewheeler1 · 06/10/2018 17:42

numptynuts
Bloody hell, what's going on this week? The flip-flopping and capitulating is getting hard to follow.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/10/2018 18:03

This is a massive land grab that has been many years in the planning, done essentially under the radar with a few women sounding the warning bell some years back ( Julie Bindell etc).
I feel really despairing for my rights and my daughters’.

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