Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

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Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

It’s just totally off-the- reservation bonkers to suggest that mumsnet feminist forum users discussing women’s rights and gender issues are in danger of being groomed into or participating in nefarious right wing terrorist plots against gender non conforming people.

I’ve seen some twisted nonsense on here in my time, but that really takes the biscuit.

About the alleged “doxing”: the posters over on the Farms find info posted voluntarily by their subjects. I don’t recall anyone who has ever admitted to gaining info by nefarious or illicit means. Don’t want anyone to find and distribute your personal information on the internet? Then don’t post it, you fool

Good post, Standwitch, very informative

Excellent post StandWitch Thanks

So it is not sufficient to say 'why do some GC women look at Kiwi Farms' but rather to ask why books are pulled from circulation on the demand of someone on Twitter, and why sex predators are elevated above victims in the current hierarchy.

YY.

Nice, standwitch

I’m still shaking my head over this. I can’t imagine JJ seriously, honestly believes that gc feminists are a couple of clicks away from committing terrorist acts, so what’s the actual game here? Get this thread pulled? Smearing by association? Get us wrong footed with lengthy explanations of why we’re not terrorists, then flip that into some sort of “no smoke without fire” narrative?

Baffling.

Of course, sex crimes are overwhelmingly perpetuated by males.

About the alleged “doxing”: the posters over on the Farms find info posted voluntarily by their subjects.

Or to put it another way, 'doxing' is what the newspapers do every day. When a man gets put on trial for rape then he is 'doxed'.

There is legitimate and morally justifiable public interest in 'doxing' certain people. Some other forms of 'doxing' are not justifiable and have no public interest defence.

If you look at the thread here on Jane Fae here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374614-John-Ozimek-now-Jane-Fae-on-women-feminists-and-victims-of-pornographers

then there are 'dox' on Jane Fae's past pronouncements. Having sunlight on said 'dox' is clearly a good thing when we consider Jane Fae's words today as a self-described 'feminist'

As, those in prison with convictions for sex crimes.

I think jj perhaps like to forget that the extremism shown by transactivists is very very clear across social media platforms. Extremism and hatred. Gifs with pointed guns are not made righteous because of the pastel flag behind it. Gifs featuring baseball bats wrapped in barbed wire or spikes are not righteous if they are painted with pastel flag colours. The violence against women is not righteous if the rape threats are made by someone with a ‘girldick’.

Get a grip. The hate and extremism displayed completely out in the public without censure by those who hate women is alarming. And no one is denouncing it because of the power of that cancel culture that has developed.

The extremism you talk about jj, isn’t from women posting on mumsnet. You know it.

Maybe you should ask yourself just who is contributing to this type of extremism hidden behind a flag though? And what is the community doing about the extremists?

So, what some people are disingenuously calling 'doxing' is actually the reporting of public available information. Even information the person who claims someone is doxing them, has made available themselves.

Do they attack themselves for 'doxing' themselves in the first place?

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Nice, standwitch

I’m still shaking my head over this. I can’t imagine JJ seriously, honestly believes that gc feminists are a couple of clicks away from committing terrorist acts, so what’s the actual game here? Get this thread pulled? Smearing by association? Get us wrong footed with lengthy explanations of why we’re not terrorists, then flip that into some sort of “no smoke without fire” narrative?

Baffling.

It appears to me to be another self defeating attempt to stop women doing something/talking about something.

Obviously, anyone who was going to, immediately checked out KF as soon as they were told not to do so under any circumstances, or else.

As far as I know Hayden themself is on there.

Since someone is apparently trying to say "mumsnetters/GC people use KF, therefore evil" I think it'd be worth their time to go check out the video by TRA darling Contrapoints entitled "incel" where Contrapoints themself says that the LGBT section of 4chan (yes apparently there is one) is dominated by non passing, incel rhetoric using transwomen. I assume that particular fact doesn't qualify the entire Transwoman population for guilt by association, or make them responsible for any future alt right terrorism that originates there, so maybe have a think about why reading KF is enough to damn all radfems. Even better, ask yourself why all the examples of transwomen actually committing acts of violence and sexual violence are constantly dismissed as "isolated incidents" that must never be connected or analysed in the context of male pattern violence, whilst women simply looking up the evidence of that violence are the ones castigated. Can you not see how absurd that position is?

I wonder if it’s just as simple as: right wing is bad and I don’t like it. GC feminists are bad, and I don’t like them. Terrorism is bad and I don’t like it. Therefore all these things are the same, and bad, and I don’t like them.

Maybe it’s no more or less than that.

Or the old stalwart, accusations are admissions, to certain people.

Strange how this pearl clutching about so called extremism on KF doesnt extend to posting on MN. What with this being such a 'transphobic' site and everything.

Hypocrites.

the lives of everybody in the GC movement will change overnight.

Why? The lives of TRAs didn't change overnight after the attack on Maria MacLachlan, or the balaclava-clad mob swarming of the Jam Jar pub in Bristol.

Why was this thread suddenly resurrected by dreeple?

Deacon: Back to the topic of the thread - I wonder if glinner will have anything to post soon?

Yes, I was trying to go back to see what the thread was about in the first place and why it had been pushed so off track.

Is a court case coming up?

Several mics dropped here

I imagine if there is Glinner will post about it on his site.

The far right: we wish harm and misery on any group that is not like us.

TRA Activists: (the sound of crickets)

GC feminists: please could we have a debate about our rights being eroded?

TRA Activists: that would be literal violence - #nodebate - torrents of hideous abuse - you are exactly the same as nazis etc. etc..