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Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 10:53

I mean their behaviour may differ (socilaisation).

But they are not a different species.

If men in Canada are not taking advantage then that is becasue of different structures / society etc. Not becasue their men are somehow different. Less pervy. Pervy men are everywhere.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 10:55

OR is this partiular type of perviness more prevalent in UK >> a product of our society >> long been said that british men love to "dress up as women" and lots of other countries find it v weird.

Dunno,

Don't care really.

Canada has long running issue with trans activist trying to get rape crisis centre shut down + that person sueing lots of beautificans for not wanting to handle xir cock and balls.

FloraHiggins · 02/10/2018 10:55

I think she understands the need for women's spaces and understands it can be abused but I think if I can show her concrete examples of how this shit is happening everywhere, including in her back yard so to speak, it'll make a stronger impact.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 10:56

Plenty of examples to pick from at the mo

FloraHiggins · 02/10/2018 10:56

Thanks nothingontellyagain, will google those.

liquidrevolution · 02/10/2018 10:58

This is horrific. That poor poor girl. Sad

Interesting that once again this hasnt been picked up by the BBC. Will keep looking to see if it is. I hate having to read the mail but I'm getting frustrated by the lack if reporting elsewhere (and too skint to get a subscription to the Times).

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2018 11:03

Bigot : a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Yup. I'm not at all tolerant of people who don't give a shit about the safety of children and women.
In the same way, I'm doubtless a horrible bigot re homophobes and racists.

Some opinions shouldn't be tolerated.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 11:05

"I've been able to get my Canadian cousin to acknowledge that there are issues but she thinks the problems that the UK faces are not prevalent in Canada"

Worth following:
Morgan Oger
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269698-Morgane-Oger-is-campaigning-to-shut-down-a-rape-crisis-centre-in

Avery Edison:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3307632-This-person-is-really-not-right-in-the-head-surely

Feminst Current: www.feministcurrent.com/

Recent situation in a refuge for women & children:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3326360-Canadian-woman-denied-legal-rights-support-because-of-misgendering-a-male-presenting-transwoman

FloraHiggins · 02/10/2018 11:08

Thank you! That's incredibly helpful Star

Redkeyboard · 02/10/2018 11:09

Nothing there have been a few reported incidents in Canada. Some are included in the new Fair Play For Women report on the impact refuges and rape crisis groups etc - they are in the international section if you want to send them to your friend:

fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/FPFW_report_19SEPT2018.pdf

Redkeyboard · 02/10/2018 11:10

Thanks Roman, sorry cross-post

Redkeyboard · 02/10/2018 11:11

Roman?!?

Rowan!

Xiaoxiong · 02/10/2018 11:39

FloraHiggins - Stefoknee thanked by name by MPP as part of the Bill 33 passage: seen here in Hansard: hansardindex.ontla.on.ca/hansardETITLE/40-1/L051-92.html

Mxyzptlk · 02/10/2018 11:43

Apart from getting arrested from crime, this is what a lot of TRAs want - men to be recognised and accepted as women completely on their say-so and with no need to even pretend to be "feminine".

Then it would be totally fine for men, who have made no change to their appearance or anything else, to be in any single-sex space.

And so any man at all could be in those single-sex spaces because it would be impossible to know if any of those people were men or transwomen without committing a hate crime by asking them.

Mxyzptlk · 02/10/2018 11:49

In short - the normalisation of male-presenting males in female spaces is the goal.

FloraHiggins · 02/10/2018 11:52

Thank you all so much for the links! Have a phone date with cousin in a few days so wil digest all the info from here and share with her. I have been looking for canadian-related incidents (saw a video of the women’s library protest in Vancouver) but this is all very compelling and I think will highlight it even more for her.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 11:59

FloraHiggins Canadian Universities announced in the last week that all university sports would now be on the basis of gender self-id.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 11:59

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Nixon_Rape_Relief_Case

the summary is a bit,um, partial

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 12:06

mentions the separate person who sued as a muslim woman who offered "female" beauty treatments didn't want to do a "brazilian" on a cock and balls (and wasn't trained to do so either)

The type of spaces that women fought historically to get into were to do with business, government, accessing the power that men hoarded for themselves and shut us out of

The type of spaces that trans activists are fighting to get into are places where women and girls are vulnerable

It's grotesque. And yet lots of men do genuinely believe it is "sexist" that they have had to eg have women on the board while they are NOT ALLOWED to go to a women only water aerobics session Confused

DuckingGoodPJs · 02/10/2018 12:07

I for one, am going to call this "Jacinta Brooks" a transwoman. The reason why, is to defeat the notion of 'this never happens', because it does, and fairly often. The TRAs will claim 'no true transwoman', but I feel it important to stress the transwoman part for ALL of these sex offenders/murderers, whether GRC or SelfID.

It is a ridiculous set of moderation rules that we can refer to some of these males as males/men (the convicted ones) and not the others (the get your cock out and selfie kind). Case-by-case basis does not work, and actually works to reinforce the 'it never happens' fairy tale. It happens, and we have been saying this for years.

Transwomen, by very definition have to be male. Otherwise women would be transwomen, but they are not, women are female. Let's stop the gaslighting, the lies, the pretending.

TRAs and pro-SelfIDers - you own this one. 'Jacinta' is your poster child. And what a lovely chap transwoman he is too.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 12:07

"FloraHiggins Canadian Universities announced in the last week that all university sports would now be on the basis of gender self-id."

bye bye women's sports in canada

they have that weight lifter don't they?is he canadian?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 12:07

SHE sorry

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 12:08

Oops I told the truth out loud.

Waiting for thought police to knock.