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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl
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NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 12:08

oops didn't refresh, see others have put links up

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 12:11

they have that weight lifter don't they?is [s]he canadian?

Lauren Hubbard? Commonwealth Games on track to win gold and was then injured?

New Zealand

DuckingGoodPJs · 02/10/2018 12:15

@Lazypoolday (tagging you, your comment was way back)

Another one that will be recorded as a female crime. I also have my suspicions about, the "UKs youngest female paedophile story from the other day link here

Try this other link, a wider shot. Remarkably thick neck for a female.

DuckingGoodPJs · 02/10/2018 12:20

The type of spaces that women fought historically to get into were to do with business, government, accessing the power that men hoarded for themselves and shut us out of

The type of spaces that trans activists are fighting to get into are places where women and girls are vulnerable

Although I would argue Nothing, that they are also overturning the former - all women shortlists for example.

Gosh, it is a great Suffragette centenary, isn't it?

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 12:22

DuckingGoodPJs
from the Independent report:

"Detective Constable Louisa McGregor, of Nottinghamshire police, said afterwards: “Smedley is a dangerous individual that has preyed on young girls and this has had a significant impact on their lives."

Interesting to note the gender-neutral language from police, though one cannot neccesarily draw conclusions from this.

stillathing · 02/10/2018 12:35

That individual is statistically very unlikely to have been born female.

I can't believe authorities cannot see the danger in misrepresenting facts in cases like this. What if there were other victims pre transition who may not now come forward because they were abused by a man? And, if an abuser is not yet caught, the misinformation potentially delays recapture as often in real life males don't pass as females anywhere near as well as they do in pictures.

A system which is dangerous to women and children and gives ordinary trans people, the majority of whom will not be abusers, terrible publicity.

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 12:35

DuckingGoodPJs - excellent points. And yes, in the Brave New World of Genderism, Jacinta here is as much a woman as anyone else who says they're a woman.

Oblomov18 · 02/10/2018 13:01

OP:
"Is it just me who thinks Jacinta looks rough for 41?"

GrinGrinGrin

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 13:05

Smedley is a good case in point.

This blurring of who is what has people questioning.

Are they a man or a woman? No idea. Unlikely to be a man. If they are >> no news here, business as usual. If they are a woman > this is a rare case and I think that it would be instructive for authorities to see what the motivation was >> papers report sex crimes committed by women are on an increase > if they are it needs looking at as it's an important shift in society. If it's blokes saying they are women > no news really.

The fact of male crimes being recorded as female is non trivial both for stats and adding to MRA claims that "women do it too".

Having no way, really, of knowing whether half "female" crimes were actually committed by women or not is a stupid direction to go in (and we are already there).

Yes women can and do, do it too. But not very often at all. Is this a woman? Who the fuck knows any more.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 13:06

I say half > because if it's a crime with a dick it's a man / sometimes still reported as transwoman and some women are pretty obviosuly women...

But it's a mess. A total mess.

VickyEadie · 02/10/2018 14:54

Canadian Universities announced in the last week that all university sports would now be on the basis of gender self-id

It's like a dystopian fucking nightmare - how can the people doing this live with themselves? Have they thought about what's going to happen and simply said "Yeah. Don't give a shit."

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/10/2018 15:05

Apparently they were mostly fine with it up to the point where they realised that scholarships, placements, team opportunities etc. would end up going to the transwomen - thus denying actual women the opportunities that were once theirs. THEN they went "hang on a second..."
Too fucking late, mate.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 15:09

Hold the phone.

So this is a dude identifying as a woman pretending to be a boy to sexually abuse children.

If anyone dare to challenge the use of pronouns anywhere on this thread I will get in the sea myself.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2018 15:16

If anyone dare to challenge the use of pronouns anywhere on this thread I will get in the sea myself.

Given the response to my question, I would imagine if anyone was fool enough to report a post about Brooks for 'misgendering' the mod would quietly draw their own conclusions about the reporter. I doubt anyone has tried to defend this indefensible man though.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 15:17

The irony of imitating a male here is mind-blowing!

SittingAround1 · 02/10/2018 15:30

Jacinta has motivated me to fill out the GRC Consultation.
He got a special mention in one of my replies.

arranfan · 02/10/2018 15:35

I get it, but it's pretty fascinating to see someone defend the notion that Jacinta B must be granted the respect of preferred pronouns or it's a slippery slope. Fionne's response is:

Stuff like this is why I think more trans people are really starting to question the prescribed trans activist narrative.

twitter.com/FionneOrlander/status/1047073011935973376

Fionne was responding to the invocation of Niemoller and this comment:

This is why i'm fighting so hard on #RapistHill. If we give any ground they will not stop until all trans rights are systematically dismantled. First the rapists, next everyone else.

twitter.com/AllieLia/status/1039280808140451841

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 15:40

The thing is, the TRAs vowing to die on #RapistHill are actually being consistent. In terms of the ideology, AllieLia is quite right. What AllieLia doesn't see, of course, is that Jacinta, in the minds of 99.99% of the population, blows the ideology right out of the water.

So AllieLa gets all the congrats for ideological purity but simultaneously peaks every person who comes across them.

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 15:42

PS: the lack of self awareness in so many of them is quite astounding. There are good times to push your ideology. There are times when your best course of action is silence so that publicity about your Achilles heel goes away as quickly as possible. Thick as mince.

arranfan · 02/10/2018 15:47

LangCleg wrote: There are good times to push your ideology.

Might it work both ways as in, if you're fed-up with older trans women like IW, Debbie, Christina etc. getting all of the media bookings, and you sense Tara H is losing popularity and media people might be looking further afield than Paris L, might this be a good time to take a more controversial stance? As in you're more likely to be invited if you have a controversial view to air and that might be worth it to them in the short term before AC and JB come out of relative media purdah?

GulagsMyArse · 02/10/2018 15:49

Jesus, this can not be recorded in the female crime stats. Right
I’m writing to my MP and equalities minister about it .

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 16:09

Might it work both ways as in, if you're fed-up with older trans women like IW, Debbie, Christina etc. getting all of the media bookings, and you sense Tara H is losing popularity and media people might be looking further afield than Paris L, might this be a good time to take a more controversial stance? As in you're more likely to be invited if you have a controversial view to air and that might be worth it to them in the short term before AC and JB come out of relative media purdah?

Well, if you think AllieLia is big on strategic thinking, perhaps!

VickyEadie · 02/10/2018 16:43

Women can't be rapists. That's all anyone needs to know to blow their arguments out of the water.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 16:44

Somebody somewhere is atleast putting an asterisk next to women in these stats, surely? I mean, come on!

arranfan · 02/10/2018 16:47

Somebody somewhere is atleast putting an asterisk next to women in these stats, surely? I mean, come on!

Handling the stats is contentious. There's an argument that once someone has an altered birth certificate the stats should retrospectively be altered (if necessary) to reflect the current status which means that if now, one was always thus (forgive the language - it's a mess doing it within the restrictions). So, the Soham murders might eventually be categorised as being committed by a woman - much depends (both on the perpetrator and how far any legal changes go).