What peak transed you

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I know this has probably been done to death, not sure if there is another thread somewhere, but briefly, what was it that peak transed you? I don't mean long philosophical essays, but was there something or a specific incident which suddenly made that lightbulb switch on?

Yeah its real I have screen caps. That's what made me think Holy shit them radfems are right.

Jenner's Woman of the Year speech.

Closely followed by discovering that others may call me 'cis' woman, but I am not allowed to make assumptions about their gender because that is 'literal' violence.

I've been lurking on Feminist Chat ever since.

Kyanite, think that's supposed to be a false parallel type argument, they're not actually claiming what they call cis women aren't women. They've taken the GC line, switched trans and cis. IF TWAW then the new version is as logical as the old so it would somehow show up the wrongness of the GC line. Completely missing the point that the whole GC argument is that TWAW is nonsense.

It is darkly amusing though that their pseudo reductio ad absurdam is actually played out in real life. I remember some trans activist on word of mouth - actually that was another thing that really peaked me - going on about how people should accept being called cis. Then as soon as they were talking about their trans friend it was all "my friend, who is a woman".

It was a article in the paper where in US college sports, 2 out of the top 3 'girls' in a race were trans identifying males.

They got full athletic scholarships to college based on winning those races and if they had ran in the men's race, they wouldn't have placed high enough up the leaderboard to get the scholarships. I saw the face of the girl who came fourth (and lost the scholarship) it was grim.

Then there were to 50 jo cox women in leadership people and at least 2 of them were TIM's.

Then I saw the picture of the Labour E+D committee and they were all born white males (although 3 were now living as women).

I became full of rage. I am still full of rage. I am so so angry that women are being pushed out of opportunities by former men who can't make their mark in the male world so instead choose to colonise our precious fought for spaces.

I often think back about my first few months on Mumsnet when I used to wonder about all the feminist boards and why they were so focussed on the trans issue. I can't believe I was so naive.

The attack on Rose McGowan got my attention. I googled CIS and fell down a never ending rabbit hole of horror.

I’ve checked news stories, reddit, lurked on Mumsnet and Twitter.

TBH I think what most “peaked” me, bearing in mind I’ve seen some horrific things and it ain’t getting better, was the picture of Mermaids at some festival or fair promoting puppies and sweets. I had the most visceral reaction to that. I was almost physically ill.

When I was 10 I was approached by a man in the street who struck up a conversation with me. Thanks to (what I know now is female socialisation) I replied and chatted with him. Then he asked if I’d like to come and see some puppies. I agreed. After walking with him for a while (main inner city road) I started to get a sense that something was off and frantically tried to think how to get out of this situation. Eventually we reached a laneway turn off and he suggested I take a shortcut I said no. He grabbed my arm and started to drag me. I looked up and saw (at the cross street ahead) a teen age boy who lived in my unit block. I yelled his name and the guy let go of my arm and ran off. I ran crying into that teen boys arms and he comforted me and took me home.

I know I was lucky. So very, very lucky. But I learned at 10 what grooming looks like. I cannot praise enough women like Lisa Muggeridge and others who are calling this out. Once you see it you cannot unsee it. You will have a physical response (defence mechanism).

Please don’t doubt the women that are pointing out the grooming behaviour. It is very real.

The concept of the cotton ceiling.
It's been a series of Himalayan peaks ever since.
As for Riley J Dennis, well there's just a one-person peak transing machine.

The way that so much of this is designed to silence women or discredit feminism. The way that women's fears are not seen as important or worthy of respect. Women's protection from harm is not important. The fact that women die at men's hands at a terrifying rate is not important and feminism is somehow responsible for trans people dying at the hands of men (if we knew how to stop them, we would have done it for our own sake already). The way that icons of feminism are being silenced and their ENTIRE body of work discredited for not buying into trans ideology. The contagious nature of trans ideology, which bears so many similarities to the contagion of anorexia/other eating disorders in young women. The risks to children's health. The lack of debate. The lies about razor blades being left under rad-fem anti-trans stickers to physically harm people who are pro-trans. The manipulation of statistics to imply that all trans people are one misgendering away from suicide. The refusal to recognise that not everyone lives their lives in good faith, that there will be men who take advantage of trans rights to attack women, that this has happened already. That women cannot take the risk of being called terfs as it's so completely damaging to our careers, so our only option is silence. And, weirdly, that Mumsnet has been so dragged through the mud just for hosting our discussions. Mumsnet probably saved my sanity when I was a terrified, depressed new mother. I've seen this community do amazing things for the ill, the damaged, the hurt and the bereaved. I'll defend it to anyone for that reason, without fear.

I’m not sure about me but I just peaked my oh telling him about female penis, the situation with girl guides /brownies, women’s sport and self ID to be moved into female prisons

DJLippy
Ugh what a vile man. I'm sorry you experienced that.

I remember one interaction I had with someone who tried to claim that taking hormones and having surgery caused cells to change from male to female. Then they claimed to be a doctor. That's when I realised - they just lie and lie and lie. They throw lies and hope something sticks. Truth is something so esoteric and fluid that they have no qualms talking absolute shite.
I just went back and screenshotted that discussion, it was over a year ago.

I think dh was peaked today. He commented on a Karen White post in his online community (male dominated and pretty trans neutral) and was surprised by a truly hysterical, sweary, nasty reply! His offending comment? One word. He. (The posted article used female pronouns for a male rapist)

Also, Gendertrender. Absolutely amazing resource. Gallus Mag changed my life. Reading those fierce women helped me to see and shed some of my need to be nice.

Jesus Kyanite UndercoveGC & DJLippy I thought I'd heard most of the main ways people peaked.
I feel like I'm constantly simmering away with rage these days

Hi all,

Just curious really.

Can you get into trouble with the law if you made a film/tv show/song/Work of art which was controversial? Entirely fictional but based on true life stories?

Just wondered

Lily Madigan.

Can we have a link to the petition?

fairplayforwomen.com/how-to/ has their guidance and a link to the consultation. Closes 19th Oct!

Being told that until such time as I underwent genetic testing to prove o had XX chromosomes I was only self-identifying as a woman. I was eight months pregnant at the time.

PeachYoghurt's wonderful videos did it for me.

Don't leave the consultation till the last minute, I've spent two hours on it so far and am only halfway through. Doing it an hour a day, started yesterday.

@Emerencealwayshopeful Your first example actually could have some element of reality in it, believe it or not.

We studied "sex and gender" as part of psychology A-level (I wonder if this chapter has now been re-written?) and this story (or similar version) was described as a case study:

https://www.newsweek.com/rare-condition-causes-girls-become-boys-puberty-374934

These are the only people who can actually change sex. No self-id, no surgery. So probably not directly relevant to today's issues, but may be where the idea that she'd grow a penis at puberty came from...

I didn't nean to put anyone off doing the consultation BTW, you can just tick yes or no to the answers if you are pressed for time or unsure what to say, however I'm finding I have a lot I want to say in the comment boxes.

Anyone who hasn't peak transed yet - surely the sight of this 'woman' would do it for anyone?

It's literally impossible to comment on that photo in an un-banworthy way.

AngryAttackKittens We were told yesterday by the mods we could say it's a man.

Cause, y'know, the evil ones are the fake ones.

We were told yesterday by the mods we could say it's a man.

Nope. I’m referring to them as transwomen. They don’t get to ‘misgender’ them because they’re the ‘wrong sort’ of transwoman.

When Stonewall extended the definition of 'transwoman' to include transvestites who dress for sexual kicks.

I have worked with three transwomen - one passed, one was well-known and no longer needed to pass, one made no effort at all but we all respected her pronouns out of affection and respect for the person she was. I wish none of them any harm or discrimination.

I have dated a tranvestite (unknowingly to start with). The more he told me the worse it got in terms of my understanding of what drove him. He absolutely got off on infiltrating women's spaces and getting his cock out.

The two are not the same. There is no case for letting transvestite men into women's spaces.

And then Sarah Brown, "Aunty Sarah."