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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This is wrong right?

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DukeOfSussex · 18/09/2018 19:31

If your teenage daughter had her first week at the University of Sussex this week this is what found in her welcome bag.

A Pot Noodle, A tablet of washing detergent, a sim card and an individual sized portion of instant coffee.

AND

A picture of a woman designed to look like she has spunk dripping down her face to sell toothbrushes. "whether you spit or swallow during your twice daily oral regime..."

She'll also find a drinks night event by the Student union being advertised all over campus. It has a picture of a dead eyed half naked woman laying in an empty bath...which advertises what? Fuck knows.

She will also find a copy of the student newspaper in her bag. On the front cover at the very top of the page is an article entitled "Transphobia and toilets". This is discussing the recent words of University of Sussex philosophy professor Kathleen Stock who dared to very (politely) question some aspects of trans theory.

Your daughter, if disabled, will also be concerned to see that some of the disabled toilets have been declared "for all genders". Which is lovely and inclusive but not ideal if you're disabled and need a wee and need to wait for an able bodied non binary male wearing lipstick to go for a shit first.

She will find that the "This Sussex Girl Can" all women only classes are open to all "women, trans gender people and non binary individuals" so just mixed classes basically .

So far so expected of university in general but what upsets me is that people wanted Kathleen Stock's job for having an opinion. She caused students to feel "unsafe" with her very words, but in a world where women are literally unsafe and sexual assault is endemic in universities, Sussex student union didn't think twice before objectifying its female students. If your employer gave you a goody bag with this card in it you could rightfully be making a formal complaint to your HR department. Why is it appropriate for university?

We can't discuss why it's always a woman advertising drinks, or toothbrushes without discussing women and the group of people who actually deal with the real repercussions of being women. It's a bloody joke.Why don't people care about actual sexism, real life objectification of women.

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OlennasWimple · 21/09/2018 16:40

Well, at least I now know what the notch on the beer mat is for

(Why couldn't they stick to comedy moustaches and animal noses like [https://www.partycheap.com/Pick-Your-Nose-Party-Animal-Cups-24-pkg-p/nnosea.htm this sort of thing]] ?)

gendercritter · 21/09/2018 17:14

ifonlyus I wanted to make a similar post to yours. We aren't a group of pearl-clutching women who are over-sensitive. It isn't really about 'offense'. It's so much worse than that.

Lots of 18 year olds aren't sexually active
Lots of 18 year olds are shy or have body-image issues
Some 18 year olds are already victims of sexual abuse - in some cases that will have been exceptionally serious: incest etc.
Some 18 year olds have already expienced abusive or coercive relationships with their peers

18 year old girls are more than their willingness to pleasure men

LassWiADelicateAir · 21/09/2018 17:25

Well, at least I now know what the notch on the beer mat is for

I did wonder. Aside from its utter awfulness I'm flabbergasted at the idea of a toothbrush subscription service.

Even if I needed or wanted that, I be too embarrassed to admit to that level of preciousness , and lord knows my own preciousness is high.

DukeOfSussex · 21/09/2018 17:30

Even if I needed or wanted that, I be too embarrassed to admit to that level of preciousness , and lord knows my own preciousness is high.

Grin
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BabyTeeth · 21/09/2018 18:29

The Sun deems it IN BAD TASTE
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/7315309/university-sussex-sexist-spit-swallow-welcome-pack/amp/
That would be a good headline but it’s more than bad taste.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 21/09/2018 19:10

Totally off topic but how do you change your username? I've done various searches but can't find an answer. Hoping to change for a thread then change back. Is that possible and, if so, how?

ToeToToe · 21/09/2018 20:21

Prawn, you go into 'my mumsnet' at the top, and select settings.

Go down to username, type in the new one, and then enter your password at the bottom.

On the desktop anyway - may be different on a mobile.

LassWiADelicateAir · 22/09/2018 01:14

What also annoys me about this is the sheer waste of money in issuing these welcome packs.

What is the point? The contents are a mixture of hum- drum every day items and tat. Most of it will end up in recycling plant or landfill.

ohamIreally · 22/09/2018 09:59

@ifonlyus your articulate and heartfelt post reflects my feelings exactly.

One comment I would make is that it's not even "sorry you were offended" it's "sorry if you were offended".

I went to university in the mid eighties, full of hope in how we were moving forward and thinking that each generation would discard more of the inequities of the previous one.

This ad to our poor young women makes my heart hurt.

BabyTeeth · 26/09/2018 15:30

Dear BabyTeeth,

Thank you for contacting the Advertising Standards Authority with your complaint about a recent ad campaign by Brushbox, which was displayed on beermats and distributed to University students. You may be interested to learn that we received a number of complaints about this ad, raising concerns that the image and text was offensive.

We think you, and the other people who contacted us about this matter, have a valid point. We understand that the advertiser has recently published an apology for any offence caused by the ad, and we will also instruct them to ensure the ad is withdrawn and is not used again. Once we’ve resolved your complaint, basic information including the advertisers’ name and where the ad appeared will be published on our website, www.asa.org.uk

We shouldn’t need to contact you again, however, in the event that the advertiser doesn’t co-operate with us, we will let you know what further action we will be taking.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write to us. If you’d like some more information about what we do and the action we’ve taken against advertisers who break the code, please have a look on our website.

Yours sincerely,

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 15:41

Good! Well done babyteeth and anyone else who complained.

Elephantinacravat · 26/09/2018 15:43

Oh, fantastic! Well done BabyTeeth and everyone else.

GreenGloves · 26/09/2018 19:50

Thank you BabyTeeth.

BettyDuMonde · 26/09/2018 20:06

👏👏👏👏

BabyTeeth · 26/09/2018 22:24

WineWine

Nondescriptname · 28/09/2018 09:01

Many thanks to DukeOfSussex for raising this in the first place. Star

bzzbeebzz · 01/10/2018 21:10

Well done all of you

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