Green Party 4

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Because let's be honest, we'll need it.

To answer a question from the last thread.

Some of Stonewall's LGB / bullying materials are really good. How can they jeopardise this work by ignoring safeguarding in this way?

Because poor Aimee had no idea that any of it was real and believed her convicted animal abuser and had no possible reason to think he was set up and entirely honest. And anyway she had no idea of how serious the accusations were. Poor Aimee.

Animal accuser dad*

Green part 3 thread here.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3351201-Green-Party-thread-3?pg=1&order=

Green Party 2
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3347925-Green-Party-statement-continuation-thread?pg=1&order=

First thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3346448-Green-Party-statement

Regarding Stonewall: As Janice Turner rightly points out, it is horrendous that Stonewall still has Aimee - someone who clearly has no concept of why employing someone accused of grave sexual crimes against a child - in an official function within their organization.
Given her history I very much question Aimee's ability to even discern what would be normal for a child to be exposed to and what is a safeguarding issue.
That Stonewall does not understand this problem raises the question, whether they have anyone in a position of influence to discern what is or isn't save for children and women.
Given Stonewall's evident blind spot, the fact that Stella Creasy consulted with Stonewall on misogyny legislation, while avoiding any women's groups, is stuff for a Kafka novel.

I tried posting this on the last thread, just before it closed.

The Lib Dems are next first powder keg to go.

Already looking forward to it. I think Cesira's analysis is spot on. Even the big political parties have a dearth of activists - people willing to do the hard slog of knocking on doors, taking up the role of branch treasurer etc. So anyone young and enthusiastic is welcomed with open arms, especially as all parties are trying to chase the youth vote (though given an ageing population, and the fact that older people are more likely to vote, they'd do better to chase the 60+ vote, in my view). So it is a form of entryism, though how co-ordinated it is I don't know. But it seems pretty clear that Aimee Challenor had no particular interest in green issues, just saw the Green Party as a soft entry point.

Thanks Mip

On subject of Lib Dems another unashamed misogynist who enjoys telling women to get in the sea or a bin is this dude. A chum of the usual Green suspects who made this breathtakingly assessment of the Green election:
mobile.twitter.com/JamesRBliss/status/1036973086761988096

So it is a form of entryism, though how co-ordinated it is I don't know.

Looking at the breadcrumb trails and the in your face entwinement of people with not insignificant roles in different parties, I think it is a cunning plan + copy cats level of co-ordination.

Not least cos they might have been less keen on the idea of self-selecting "rising stars" from their group - the ones jostling forward with sharp elbows and a 747 hold of baggage - had they actually organised more formally.

But, it does raise a possibility for fight back. Properly organised another group could penetrate the same soft underbelly, waggle all and any identity cards they can lay claim to and then outshine the competition with self control and strict privacy lock down on their personal SM if nothing else.

There's nothing to stop Anti TRAs using the same route in and beating them at their own game. We do afterall have the benefit of hindsight, thanks to their fuck ups. So loads of elephant traps can be avoided even for newbies on the political stage.

The fly in the ointment is we tend to be older, and have actual adult responsibilities. But if the retired and the students in this camp could be deployed in the same way Aimee et al were... some striking of a still heating up iron could happen.

The fly in the ointment is that women are not treated the same way males of any 'gender' are. Females cant take advantage of tactics which are easily employed by males because of sexism.

I know lots of people highlight the entryism/domination of Freemasons, Common Ground, Landmark (?) and similar.

I'd very much like to know where all of the young people who've been through Stonewall's training programmes have ended up being appointed - I think it might be quite eye-opening.

Landmark? Aware of the organisation, didn't realise TRAs had infiltrated. Any links/info?

The fly in the ointment is that women are not treated the same way males of any 'gender' are. Females cant take advantage of tactics which are easily employed by males because of sexism.

If parties are that desperate for incomers then I don't think they'd be in a position to be fussed if the incomers are actual women. But realistically, how many of us between work and family have time to pontificate around being all volunteer "Rising Star" in waiting ?

The only rising star in my life from next week on is the one twinkling at me as I bolt upright at 3am, suddenly remembering nine things I didn't manage to squeeze in yesterday that have to get added to today's To Do list.

Checking in. I’ve just caught up with the third thread, and the grimy depths of doedoe’s Twitter account (spectacular research job - and I can only imagine the things you saw but omitted). Nearly fell of my proverbial chair when I saw that AC’s half sibling, adopted out of the family before AC was born, is somehow also into the adult baby scene? I mean, HOW? They are no blood relation of DC and presumably spent no time around the man, until perhaps they sought contact with their birth mother as adults? Anyway, it blew my mind and not in a good way.

What continues to blow my mind is the ease with which young, under-qualified male born people with significant mental health issues seemingly just waltz into public life and are given a platform... just like that. Totally agree that the Green Party, in this case, was a soft entry point. We know AC gives no shits about environmental issues.

From the co-convener of the Glasgow branch of the Scottish Greens...

The Scottish Greens have been enthusiastically offering Aimee lots of love.

They need to be careful - it's bad enough to overlook a massive safeguarding hole in your party but to actively encourage someone to turn up with a wrecking ball is dangerous and stupid.

twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1037641263103832064

Momentum have launched a full on propaganda campaign to brain wash - actively telling people not to think.

Well, at least some of those comments weren't just woke people applauding. Love the fact that some gay men remember Juno Dawson's very disparaging comments.

"Nearly fell of my proverbial chair when I saw that AC’s half sibling, adopted out of the family before AC was born, is somehow also into the adult baby scene? I mean, HOW?"

Well the half-sibling is close to both Aimee & their mother, so while adopted appears to have returned to the family IYSWIM.

And as I understand it the half-sibling moved to Scotland (from Essex I think) to come out as trans, and Aimee then later also stayed at that the same house. and there seems to be a lack of boundaries between all the various parties, which I don't full understand but they Tweet each other (Aimee to half-sibling, various lovers) as babies. I'm not really an expert on how much of this ABDL stuff is NOT sexual, but at least they all identify as 'poly'

It's hard to say who and where this all comes from, as the half-sibling was adopted while still very small, but they all would have met David Challenor obviously.

Doesn't one of Aimee's special,friends live in Aberdeen? Is that the Scottish Greens connection? DoeDoe will know, if anyone does.

Ah cross-posted. Aimee has said she is in a polyamorous relationship with 'Katrina and Nathan'. Katrina is, I think, the Aberdonian?

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From the co-convener of the Glasgow branch of the Scottish Greens...

Wow. I read that and thought "Ah, someone who's in touch with reality, advising GC women to leave a party that holds them in contempt". Read to the end and realised that wasn't it at all :( It's a woman shitting on other women.

No, the Aberdonian is a much older (19 years older) er, furry, called Fiona.

As I understand it, Aimee's half-sibling first moved to that house, and Katrina still (or until very recently) lived there.

Aimee's half-sibling has escaped Aberdeen now I think, and is engaged to a trans-lady called Amber.

Katrina runs the 'actuallesbians' forum on Reddit, as well as as some porn stuff.

So:

1. Fiona - 39yo adult baby furry
2. Aimee's half-sibling - ~30 yo adult baby furry, moved in with Fiona no longer lives there
3. Katrina - ~25 yo adult baby furry, also moved in with Fiona, likely still lives there
4. Aimee - 20 yo adult baby furry, lives in Coventry but visits the house of Fiona.

5 Nathaniel - bloke in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Katrina & Aimee visit there on holiday at the same time

So Katrina is quite closely connected to Aimee, while Fiona's role in all of this is quite unclear but seems to help younger people find their true trans furry adult baby identity.

Also Aimee claims to be visiting the Scottish Greens on visits to Fiona & Katrina in Aberdeen. Aimee is a member of the Scottish Green party.

It's therefore presumed there are adult babies in the Aberdeen branch of the Scottish Green party, but WHICH ones is not clear. It might be just Katrina, who is a Green, but they do tweet various other Scottish adult babies quite openly ('dj puppy pants', 'toddlergurl', etc.) so perhaps you could follow the links there.

I was skim reading the judgement from the Supreme Court of India regarding homosexuality just now. I know it involves another county but the intro is worth a read if you're interested in politics and the trans issue. It is dismaying to see how much the emphasis is on people being able to pick their own name and identity. It feels like this ideology is spreading everywhere. I wasn't sure where to post it but this post feels as good a place as any

You can see it here

Patrick Harvie, who thinks feminists are analogous to Islamobhobes or anti abortionists, will look very foolish if his party are caught with their, um, nappies down.