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Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 11:12

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CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 19:42

thought independent did say about him dressing as little girl

It did when I posted the link. Edited ?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:43

I read it earlier today and sure it gave that info

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 19:43

archived to end page2 as pdf

TwistedStitch · 27/08/2018 19:45

Sorry you're right, the Independent did mention that too. I read it quickly and must have missed it.

The Breitbart twitter comments are pretty extreme too, yet haven't seen a single TRA or Dr pop up to say anything. Seems that's reserved for women discussing the law over men actually being transphobic.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:45

"A court was told how he would dress up as a small girl in adult-sized baby dresses and nappies before carrying out the attacks at his home"

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:46

Still there

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:46

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:47

"Seems that's reserved for women discussing the law over men actually being transphobic."
Naturally.

hackmum · 27/08/2018 19:47

Aimee wasn’t a rising star. All political parties are short of activists at the local level, and many are desperate to find people to run for office. Most are dominated by a handful of older activists, and they love it if someone young steps forward. And that’s in the major parties. Aimee was a moderately big fish in an extremely small pond, but managed to get loads of publicity, presumably as a result of the highly skilled PR operation promoting trans activism in the UK.

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 19:47

A reality check on Aimee Challoner being a "rising star"

A further reality check: Challoner Junior ran for a local election once (in 2018) and garnered 146 votes. This was in the ward of St Michael's, in Coventry. A ward, incidentally, that has the youngest population (lots of university students) in Coventry. The election was won by Labour by a huge margin.

Challoner Junior came last by a very wide margin, with even the Conservative candidate winning approximately twice as many votes.

I'd like to know where this myth of "rising star" came from.

Amalfimamma · 27/08/2018 19:48

CesiraAndEnrico

Thank you. I've sent hubby and kids out to get pizza so I can sit with a big glass of wine and homemade limoncello

I only did what anyone would do. And along with me there were many others who oieces years and years of information together.

Maybe the greens should hire us to vet new members. Save them another shitstorm

Datun · 27/08/2018 19:50

Following this mess as it unfolds.

Well done Amalfimamma. Your rage is impressive and comforting.

And applause to BettyDuMonde's marvellous mum.

"If anyone wants to insult me for being concerned about the safeguarding of women and girls, I will think of my (late) mum, and her kazoo/tambourine/loud Tunisian souvenir and make as much noise as I can to let them know that we can hear them."

Needmoresleep · 27/08/2018 19:51

Thank you Amalfi and Bore.

Many many years ago my dad was a senior detective tasked with investigating a murder in a children’s home in North London. The murder itself was solved - two senior staff competing over the affections of one of the children, using some interesting CSI type stuff involving ambient and body temperatures. However when he asked to then investigate the perverted and criminal behaviour of some of the staff and the effective rape of vulnerable children, he was forbidden, and understood that there political influences at work. My dad was so so angry and upset. I did not really understand at the time though more recent recent revelations suggest he was right to have been appalled.

I have found all of this surprisingly triggering, even though it was my dad’s, not my issue.

Children and their protection must come first. All of this is awful, but how dare the GP not take a firm stand, how dare the Guardian or BBC fail to provide professional and unbiased reporting, how dare people whose perceived role is to advise/influence the government or other organisations minimise the crime and fail to recognise its severity, and most of all how dare anyone put the poor girl at risk and add to her distress by allowing her to be identified.

FFS. Vulnerable children come first.

NobodyToVoteForNow · 27/08/2018 19:53

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TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 19:54

From Challenor Junior's web page: "We're proud to do politics differently in the Greens". Yes, your one of your most prominent activists is a convicted animal abuser and paedophile. That's different all right but perhaps not in a way that you'd like to boast about.

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CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 19:57

I only did what anyone would do

Nah, you've done a lot more than most people would even think of doing. I didn't even think of the possibility of contacting the U.K. police from here. So went to bed and fretted instead. You used your gumption which was a lot more helpful to that poor kid.

Take your credit. Don't waft it away. You'll need it in the energy bank the next time you go out there as our Glenn. Fighting hoards of Zombies and coming home with the best intel and supplies.

Now sit and swig. Or I'll set the Nonna army on you, after maybe whispering in their collective ears that you sat so near a fan that the dreaded colpo d'aria is inevitable. Grin Thanks

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 19:57

The only reasons Challenor Junior was such a big deal were that the (1) family loved publicity and courted it avidly and (2) Greens lack any kind of real talent.

If Challenor Junior was such hot stuff, why did they poll only 146 votes in the one local election they ran in? A number that was 5.5% down on the previous year.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 19:59

We're proud to do politics differently in the Greens"

Damn.

New slogan needed pronto if that's the green's actual slogan rather than AC's own work.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 20:00

TerfsUp

The Greens are starting to look more smoke and mirrors than any actual substance at all.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 27/08/2018 20:01

Slight tangent, but paintedwingsandgiantrings has posted a useful and timely reminder on a site stuff thread about making sure your MN account doesn't have personal info (eg email address or Fb user names). The short outage earlier may be a taste of things to come.

theOtherPamAyres · 27/08/2018 20:07

I get the impression that Challoner Senior was the designated driver for "Rising Star" Aimee.

  • Dad and Aimee hired a car to deliver court papers to Andy Healey , when they were taking out an injunction to stop Andy speaking at the Green Party Conference and suing him for 'misgendering'.
  • There is a tweet from London Assembly Green politician, Caroline Russell, saying how nice it was to meet A and her lovely Dad. ("What a nice man and so proud of you")

Was Challoner Senior not only the man behind the camera but a kind of sel=appointed personal assistant/driver/tech support?

jgrobinson · 27/08/2018 20:13

Thanks for that info TerfsUp! Familiarity did not seem to make local voters fond of Aimee.

TwistedStitch · 27/08/2018 20:18

There is a woman (a Dr) tweeting that she resigned from the Green Party in part due to the toxic influence of AC and also concerns over safeguarding and nothing was done despite her addressing these concerns in writing. I've also seen response from Caroline Lucas 2 years ago that she would look into the blocking of women. So what have they been doing whilst AC and supporters have been given free rein to run amok? Aimee is photographed repeatedly with Jonathan Bartley and still not a peep from him.

PutItAwayDear · 27/08/2018 20:22

Yes why do so many of the papers refer to Aimee as a "rising star"? Working from the same press release?

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