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Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 11:12

Thread was filling up so I've started this for further discussions

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 27/08/2018 20:23

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TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 20:23

I get the impression that Challoner Senior was the designated driver for "Rising Star" Aimee.

I increasingly get the feeling that Challoner Senior was the man behind for the curtain for Junior.

There is a tweet from London Assembly Green politician, Caroline Russell, saying how nice it was to meet A and her lovely Dad. ("What a nice man and so proud of you")

If I can track down an email address for Caroline Russell I am going to ask her why she considers a convicted animal abuser and paedophile "a nice man".

Ekphrasis · 27/08/2018 20:24

Interesting from the Breitbart comments that a few follow "gender critical women" - and are crediting said women.

Reading from the perspective written there seems to indicate that the gc feminist movement (possibly more accessible to joe/ Josephine public than rad fem?) is becoming a noticed movement and one that is a positive force for change.

Also amusing that one hasn't a clue what GC is...

Ekphrasis · 27/08/2018 20:24

And of course, mn is frequently mentioned in that movement.

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 20:36

If anyone would like to join me in asking Caroline Russell why she thinks Challoner Senior is "a nice man", you can email her at [email protected].

Imnobody4 · 27/08/2018 20:38

're naming of victim - somebody said the tweet came from the U.S. Just found this site -AC seems to have a partner in the U.S.. blog.aimeec.co.uk/posts/

Popchyk · 27/08/2018 20:40

I think one of the things that contributed to the "rising star" narrative was the use of social media and other transgender activists from other parties (Lily Madigan, Sarah Brown, Heather Peto etc.) working to support AC in the Greens. So AC had little support from the electorate, a bit more from the Greens, but lots of support from the wider Transgender Machine.

AC benefitted from Lily Madigan's exposure in the media and became The Green Lily Madigan.

This raised AC's profile and so the Stonewall gigs and talking to Parliament stuff came flooding in. The media gigs were only ever about transgender of course; AC was never booked to talk about green policies. I'm guessing that AC has never actually read up on green policies.

The Transgender Machine loyalty is much stronger than any loyalty to the political party. For example, Lily Madigan (Labour) teamed up with Sarah Brown (Lib Dem) in order to harass Ann Sinnott (Labour councillor) on Twitter.

Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 20:45

Ive just been looking at the tweets underneath AC's statement. ( didn't think I would be able to as I was previously blocked ). Although many are supportive, there are also very many highly critical and saying many of the things we've been saying here, including screenshots of t*blocker.

mobile.twitter.com/GreenPartyAimee/status/1033750682459885569

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Tanith · 27/08/2018 20:45

Three Labour party members were kicked out of the party at the last election for offering support to the Lib Dems.
Why is Lily Madigan still in place?

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 20:46

Thank you, Popchyk. You made some good points. Challenor Junior's star was really based on social media accounts and smoke and mirrors rather than anything substantive.

TrumpsToddlerTantrums · 27/08/2018 20:53

DH has recently undergone a candidate selection process for Labour. He was asked about: his financial situation, outstanding loans etc; whether there was anything potentially embarassing in his past; whether he was a Freemason; AND whether he or any of his family had any criminal convictions.

Obviously, I can't speak as to The Green Party process, but it would take some balls to lie omit the fact your father had been charged with serious sexual offences if asked directly.

TrumpsToddlerTantrums · 27/08/2018 20:55

Oh, and DH was asked if they could access his social media accounts.

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 20:56

Or not reveal that your father was a convicted animal abuser when you're a candidate for the Green Party and then to have the front to hire him as your campaign agent?

To do that you have to have balls.

Popchyk · 27/08/2018 20:58

Yeah, these "rising stars" in the Labour and Lib Dems are only ever known for their squawking about TERFs on Twitter. Oh, and calling out other people on Twitter for transphobia. That's all they ever do.

None of them seem to have An Actual Job, so of course they can call people all sorts of names on Twitter, they won't get sacked will they? These are people with nothing to lose. And everything to gain.

Plus, I can't imagine any of them getting involved in any issue that isn't actually about them. Or getting outside their front doors for once and canvassing for the party. Or talking to ordinary people who are struggling to put food on the table. Not a chance.

Tedious self-absorbed tossers.

Amalfimamma · 27/08/2018 21:03

Now sit and swig. Or I'll set the Nonna army on you, after maybe whispering in their collective ears that you sat so near a fan that the dreaded colpo d'aria is inevitable*

I needed that after the last few days lol

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 21:03

I increasingly get the feeling that Challoner Senior was the man behind for the curtain for Junior.

Joining you in that feeling.

Amalfimamma · 27/08/2018 21:04

re naming of victim - somebody said the tweet came from the U.S. Just found this site -AC seems to have a partner in the U.S..

Ie Aimee once spoke to someone I. The US and self id's as their partner lol

gendercritter · 27/08/2018 21:05

It's going back 2 pages but I just wanted to say to Cesira that your post was spot on. You really nailed it. These perennial losers (I was also one) could do very little danage 20 years ago. They are being exploited now. Both the non-binary people I know in real life come under that category, I'm afraid to say. Both are being manipulated.

And Amalfi Flowers you star

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 21:06

Amalfimamma

Have you managed to wind down a little ? I've made blow job themed stickers on the Stickerwoman thread if you need a bad joke to cheer you up and distract you from all the shift for a minute,

AngryAttackKittens · 27/08/2018 21:07

Well done, people who got the police engaged and working on those who identified the victim. On the DDOS question, yep, that's what it looked like to me.

Interesting how determined TRAs are to prevent the public from joining any dots in this case.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 21:10

Look at Breitbart trending. Note the comparable comments numbers compared to all the others.

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AngryAttackKittens · 27/08/2018 21:15

I've been saying for a while that the general public is not on board with TRA demands at all. One case that's proof of why misgivings are justified may be all that's needed to bring down the whole pile of dominos, partly because TRAs all seem to be connected to each other and social media joins the dots.

thebewilderness · 27/08/2018 21:32

But why name the victim? What could the point possibly be?

It is a threat aimed at other victims.

AngryAttackKittens · 27/08/2018 21:34

And at anyone else who stands in their way.

RedToothBrush · 27/08/2018 21:35

"A court was told how he would dress up as a small girl in adult-sized baby dresses and nappies before carrying out the attacks at his home"

Got to be said that the deleted Neville Southall twitter take over the other week looks even worse now.