Green Party statement continuation thread

[Destinysdaughter]

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So someone gave you the name 'Baloo' and it's not your fault if you took that at face value?

Who's running in Brighton next year? Mickey Mouse? Jesus Christ? Santa Claus?

Who was Involved in Tina Challenor's Campaign?

Safeguarding is all about being sceptical. In schools if someone gives you a referee email address which doesn't end in @knownandreputableschool.gov.uk you shouldn't accept it. If it's Baloothefriggingbear@can'tgetme.com then maybe it might be worth questionning?

And I'll let you have that advice for your inquiry free of charge.

NB - It's S-C-E-P-T-I-C-A-L. Not G-U-L-L-I-B-L-E.

Red is Right, though. Senior figures mentored the rise of Aimee, and thus enabled the (frankly bizarre) fiefdom in the Coventry Greens. Ultimately, they sheltered a criminal rapist of children in plain sight.

And ... policies, influence, contacts across differing organisations ...

He was.

I wonder if Tina Challenor is 'stepping aside from her duties'? Or whether she'll be expelled? Or maybe they've forgotten about her in all the excitement?

All, frankly, are equally possible.

The problem is that this pattern happens time and time again. I’ve witnessed this in various situations myself. Those people with confident and persuasive personalities don’t always get questioned. It’s almost as if people don’t feel they can’t ask them as they feel that it would look a personal slight and as if they don’t trust them. (Think of Jimmy Saville and countless others)

Tina hasn't been prosecuted. Well not for this crime anyway - she has been prosecuted for her inability to keep animals safe and had all five of her children taken into care.

So I guess that makes her a fine and upstanding member of society and just the sort of person we want representing us

raisins

Confident and persuasive? Sorry, this is a low blow, but Royston Vasey springs to mind

A further trip down the rabbit hole but there are some very weird masks (with tongues sticking out) in the window at that address.

Eurgh. Very very sad, and too creepy.

Tina hasn't been prosecuted. Well not for this crime anyway - she has been prosecuted for her inability to keep animals safe and had all five of her children taken into care.

So I guess that makes her a fine and upstanding member of society and just the sort of person we want representing us

Can't manage to look after kids or animals, yet suitable to look after the electorate.

For the GREEN party, which has supporters with a particular interest in animal welfare no less.

Surely anyone wanting to stand for even a local election in any other party, would be pulled up on their suitability for the same.

Forget, Aimee and David for a second, what the fuck are the greens thinking with that? You'd be forgiven for expecting it from UKIP, but THE GREENS??!!!

Ladybirds - Yes! But it’s all relative to who you are surrounded by. And he was featured in that article in The Mirror, and campaigned publicly for Aimee so must be a confident character.

So Coventry Pride took active steps to curtail Challoner's involvement from NOVEMBER 2016.

How come they knew about the circumstances of a criminal investigation and Coventry Green party didn't know?

Or did Coventry GP know, but think it was OK?
Or was Coventry GP run by the Challoners?

It's been pointed out on twitter that AC was a trustee of Coventry pride in until at least 2017 so this part of the statement A directive was issued to those responsible for volunteer recruitment that Mr Challenor was not to be accepted as a volunteer at the Charity’s events and if he attended public events organised by the Charity he was monitored by the trustees could mean Aimee was tasked with monitoring DC. Not as robust a statement as it 1st seems. There's also a pic posted from Aimee speaking at a Coventry pride event in 2017 which looks to have been taken by "baloo" challenor. How much supervision can one do when talking at an event?

If you drew a Venn diagram of the Coventry green party and Coventry pride how much overlap would there be? My guess is 'a whole shitload'. So how could one know and not the other? Or one know and NOT TELL the other?

If he was monitored by Aimee, the Trustee, Aimee definitely knew.

(And, agree, it all does look a little lax. But, hey, the guy was a fine, upstanding member of the Green Party, who was a great dad - why wouldn't you trust him?)

I agree that calling women out who are questioning safeguarding and disclosure as bigots and terfs means supporting an agenda that is equivalent to to abuse on a large scale like that within the Catholic Church in Ireland.

Pride are, rightly, back peddling.

Aimee does seem to have been removed as a trustee of Coventry Pride:

apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/ContactAndTrustees.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1164035&SubsidiaryNumber=0

Not sure when this happened, but they would appear to have concerns about the whole 'supporting an accused paedophile rapist' thing.

Naturally.

Refreshing to see an organisation not turning themselves inside out to stand shoulder to shoulder with their trans sister. Feh.

On the one hand, I'm amazed there aren't any Coventry people on this thread.

On the other, I've spoken to people I know in Coventry and they know next to nothing about it.

A lot of people don't read Coventry Metro (it's filled largely with syndicated content and a bit crap) and this hasn't really made the BBC. So ...

Because as we know, trans paedophile - it never happens. And to say so is trans phobic.

The result of Aimee's political agenda will mean that the victim of David Challenor's vile crimes will never be entitled to a space free of male presence, male influence, male bodies, and penises.

Because obviously a woman who was raped by a man in a dress calling himself by a female name won't be at all triggered attending group therapy with people who are male, wearing dresses, and calling themselves by female names. It won't bring her ordeal flooding back to her at all.

Any transpeople reading this: if you have a microgram of compassion for David Challenor's victim, you will respect that she, and women and girls like her, need single-sex spaces to heal and relax and feel safe.

We fight on, for her.