Green Party statement continuation thread

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Aimees mother has publicly admitted that

Aimees statement had to say those things to save her career. We couldn't do it any other way. Aimee knows her dad isn't guilty and the victim is lying but we had to think of Aimees future and her dad understands.

As soon as I have screens I'll post them but this is what her mum is saying on fb.

Bloody hell and that 'mother' is getting sympathy and best wishes from AC supporters on twitter.

Aimee has retweeted two Tweets:

• one slagging off Graham Linehan
• one slagging off Mumsnet

So business as usual.

And one of the ppl who endorsed Aimee for election has written

The bitch (ie the victim) will pay dearly for what she has done I'll see to that

I'm not sure about immediately expelling AC. I think suspension, further to investigation into how safeguarding was ignored by AC, followed by expulsion.

Mip: I too am looking for the clearest report on the specifics of the charges, the verdicts and the dates. The charges should be available publicly but I think the dates are only known due to CSI mumsnet.

I do hope the other political parties are also launching their own checks. This has the potential to be much bigger than the Green Party.

Suspension should include telling AC to get GP off the Twitter handle. We need to tread carefully: the chances of the TRA turning this into a transphobia story are not slim.

The bitch (ie the victim) will pay dearly for what she has done I'll see to that

So if they endorsed does that mean it is a Green Party member who is threatening a victim of child rape and torture ?

I take back the Well Meaning & Kind stereotype I had of the Greens. I need a new one for 2018.

Oh Amalfi, I do hope youll be posting those screenshots far and wide.

Is AC really helping the GP with safeguarding and continuing to do so now? if that is true, who is endorsing this? GP must have a death wish.

Aimee's mother appears to have been Membership Secretary for the Ward after the trial.

Far too little attention has been paid to that.

But it looks as though Aimee's supporters are keen to bring attention to that. 😯

This isn't transphobia.

It's about how things have been allowed to go so badly wrong in a Party ward and the national Party.

The Green Party have stated Aimee is no longer officially connected to them, Bienchen.

Not transphobic. Any 20 year old working for one of the major parties who had brought their party into disrepute by failing to declare such a shocking crime committed by someone close to them, would be suspended and at arms length long before now.

so how come AC is still using the GreenPartyAimee handle? As in 3 hours ago? Or has the GP officially disconnected itself from AC in the last 3 hours?

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the chances of the TRA turning this into a transphobia story are not slim.

Gen Pub is not keen on men who dress up in pink frills, call themselves Linda and torture/rape little girls.

Had Stonewall kept the umbrella at half mast, rather than open to all comers DC couldn't have leaked all over the Transgender cause so much.

But they didn't. And his has. Yells of transphobia at the moment aren't going to do much other than remind the gen. pub. they need to get active in slamming the door shut on the TRA's aims, while they still can.

And frankly, transphobic my arse. If Aimee had been a white male young conservative "rising star" the kid would have been steamrollered by his own party days ago, with half the public waving "Down With Maggie" pitchforks while they did it.

Investigations are ongoing, so there is more to come and AC is cherrypicking carefully selected messages of support rather than reflecting on where AC went wrong.

Barracker

Those were excellent posts. Do not be modest about that. I was about the most upset with MNHQ that I've ever been

Thank you MHHQ

The bitch (ie the victim) will pay dearly for what she has done I'll see to that

Can the posters who have reported the naming of the victim to the police also report this? Clearly threatening behaviour and with the naming as well it's targeted.

MipMipMip awaiting screens to be able to add this to my incident report.

Doesn't matter. Conversations are being had in quiet rooms with powerful peooke where this is being framed as transphobia. Trans Media Watch and the equalities industry will be all over this and can turn it, if they keep it out of the press or on the down low in the media.

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GP must have a death wish.

I'll repeat this again, as its a current theme of politics in 2018. Criticism of AC will be interpreted by 'attacks' on AC. Anyone who votes Green already and sees them as a serious political force, will not be bothered by this incident. AC is 'one of them' thus an 'attack' on AC is also an 'attack' on them and their values.

People who are not part of that bubble will not be able to comprend it. They will instead apply logic to the incident. They don't see any of it as a 'threat' to their 'identity'.

The pattern is EXACTLY the same with Trump and Trump supporters.

This is why identity politics is so dangerous and difficult to crack open as containing moral abhorations - people don't want to be self critical and admit failings. Instead they would rather ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist in any way they can. They will justify the unjustifable rather than 'allow' their tribe to suffer a blow.

People are not seeing Aimee's actions as being indefensible, they only see Aimee as the 'victim of a witchhunt' in which everything is just being used to smear Aimee - and by extension themselves.

This is why scrutiny and transparency is floundering like a dying fish on the beach in 2018.

I strongly suspect there is actually no political benefit to the greens to do anything. Doing anything will alienate a core part of their vote. Unless the internal party culture takes safeguarding and vetting protocols seriously of its own accord then there is no way to force a party to change. It doesn't.

By the way the BBC mobile coventry and Warwickshire menu makes it look like AC committed the crime. There will be complaints about that too and the story will slide quietly off, as too much bother.

I agree with Red 100%