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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman at church shamed my daughter.

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FloralBunting · 08/08/2018 22:58

Some of my kids are away at a Christian youth camp. One of my daughters is an older teen, involved in junior leadership.

One of the women leaders has taken her to one side and given her some 'advice' about the way she dresses. My daughter is well endowed in norkage, and frankly, delightfully unfussed about wobbly bits in other places. She's not fat, she's not thin, she's just a normal teen girl. She's more than happy in her own skin, and enjoys clothes. She has been wearing shorts this week, and all manner of floaty blouses and strappy tops, because she's been camping, it's hot, and she was comfortable.

I'm angry at having to describe how she dresses, because it shouldn't be bloody relevant, but it's necessary to underline that she is just a regular teenager.

This woman took her to one side, having already discussed it with another female leader, and told her that what she wears is too revealing, shows off her nipples and distracts the boys and will bring her 'the wrong kind of attention'.

She phoned me up, half laughing at the absurdity, but also clearly quite upset. I am livid. We came out of an environment where clothes were exceedingly conservative, because I wanted my girls to stay well away from that kind of restriction, and my DP and kids go to a really run of the mill CofE now.

My daughter spoke to my DP about it and he made it clear that if boys are finding her distracting they need to sort themselves out, which I'm pleased about, but I am absolutely horrified that at least two of the female leaders thinks it's appropriate to shame my daughter for looking like a normal teenaged girl, and dare to suggest this is some kind of bad behaviour on her part.

I've emphasized that this kind of nonsense is sadly a conservative evangelical thing, and that she must let it roll off like the sexist crap it is, but it's so galling that it's women doing this kind of policing.

I told her to try and slip 'nipples' into the conversation on the minibus home.

Angry
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BettyDuMonde · 10/08/2018 12:04

Hey Bunting - hope the homecoming went well and you were able to cox your daughter through?

FloralBunting · 10/08/2018 12:15

Cheers Betty. They're all home, and she's fairly chipper. In fact, she's probably going back in a week with her bestie as a volunteer onsite so that she can have another crack at some time to think and pray about her actual big concerns right now.

I'm having a ponder about how to approach the woman from her church, who I know outside of that setting. Because I do think I need to say something. But she is quite a forceful character, so I shall need a bit of a run up.

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IDontEatFriedTurtle · 10/08/2018 14:27

I can understand if for dd's sake you want to draw a line under it all, but might be worth having a good chat with dd about the rights and wrongs and letting her write a letter explaining why this woman was wrong?

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