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Goat dies after violent attack by men **Title edited by MNHQ - distressing article in OP post**

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IDontEatFriedTurtle · 07/08/2018 20:27

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pregnant-goat-dies-after-being-12998644

Fucking horrific. And thank you to the Metro for publishing this act of sexual assault and animal cruelty under the "weird sex" section.

Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with men. How do 8 men find each other that would willing rape a pregnant goat to death? If there aren't loads of disgusting men out there how do gang rapes happen? coincidence that ab inch of disgusting bastards were together?

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stevejobsspectacles · 08/08/2018 23:17

Everyone knows NAMALT...it just gets fucking boring saying NAMALT, when we know NAMALT

And yet on this thread we have :

^I just don't know what is wrong with men. And there is something very, very wrong with them - so many of them are evil to the point of demonic. It has got to the stage where, if you hear or read about a genuinely GOOD man, it is a shocking thing.

If I were a man I would be so ashamed of my sex.^

Ashamed to be a man. It follows that men should also be collectively proud of, the Union Pacific say - or maybe the National Grid as a different example of male industry that massively benefits women.

For the record - i had no problem with the thread title.

RebelRogue · 08/08/2018 23:17

So women should basically shut up and put up and be eternally grateful to men? Is that it?

stevejobsspectacles · 08/08/2018 23:18

I'll ask again as it maybe was missed :

If it were true that men collectively benefit from a bunch of sick freaks in India raping and murdering a goat, or indeed any other display of male violence, then why would men bother to prosecute any crimes against women ?

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 23:18

Poor Steve, not only is he dead but now some angry little man has stolen his specs.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 23:19

why would men bother to prosecute any crimes against women?

Prior to feminists women campaigning for laws to prosecute crimes against women, women were largely viewed as the property of men. Rape = damaging or unlawfully taking the 'property' of men. Women have had to fight to be recognised as fully human before the law.

LangCleg · 08/08/2018 23:19

Apropos of nothing, it's my belief that Kleenex will never go out of business.

thebewilderness · 08/08/2018 23:20

My favorite since I was a child is Mary Somerville.
I am not surprised that an MRA would be ignorant of the fact that we do talk about these women here on FWR fairly often and so we do indeed know the names of women who were self taught because they were not allowed in the schools. The same schools that used their work to teach the boys and men.

stevejobsspectacles · 08/08/2018 23:21

Women have had to fight to be recognised as fully human before the law.

So you're telling me that women made men implement these laws, or could there have been another reason that men are happy to punish men for crimes against women ?

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 23:21

Indeed, if one was looking to invest that might be a good suggestion. Hand cream too.

waxy1 · 08/08/2018 23:22

Seems to have happened in India.

thebewilderness · 08/08/2018 23:22

So women should basically shut up and put up and be eternally grateful to men? Is that it?

7th rule of misogyny: Women should always be grateful to men for everything.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/08/2018 23:22

Yes

And those people making those comments KNOW that its not all men

They are talking about men in general

I know this because not one of those people has said

'Every man on the planet is like this'

Or 'all men do this'

They use the words 'some' or so many' instead of ALL

People also say...im ashamed to be a woman...or im ashamed to be white...or im ashamed of....whatever

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/08/2018 23:23

Im off to bed, not ignoring any replies Smile

Night all

thebewilderness · 08/08/2018 23:24

Yanno steve, ole Abe said Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

LangCleg · 08/08/2018 23:24

Indeed, if one was looking to invest that might be a good suggestion. Hand cream too.

Yep. Top investment tips here, wimz.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 23:24

Sleep well! You know the angry men will still be here when you wake up, should you feel the need to point and laugh again.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 23:25

Steve Jobs was a big bullshitter - constantly claiming credit for others' work.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 23:27

Still doesn't deserve to have his specs stolen after he died, though.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 23:28

True. RIP Jobbie

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 08/08/2018 23:36

This is an utterly facile statement. The very concept of "human rights" exist because men made them up.

I meant to go on and say, that's really the point.

Your good old early humans weren't sitting around the fire scratching their fleas when some bright spark piped up with, "what we need here my lads, is a system of laws and processes which balance the rights of the accused against the rights of the public to see justice done and ensure public safety and order."

But when some cave-dweller pinched his neighbour's pointy stick, the only options were violent retribution and counter-offensive or some form of organised justice.

This of course, also elides the fact that while the justice system is probably better than free-for-all retribution, if you're in charge of making the laws, you can make them to your own benefit, to protect your own privilege and possessions. That occurred to Mr Caveman very early on - being in charge of the whole system is a huge advantage.

You can make laws to start wars, dispossess entire populations, own other countries, even own people.

Men, particularly wealthy men, have benefited enormously from the system they created. Everyone else has had to fight tooth and nail to change the laws to include them, Married Women's Property Act, for example.

The justice system wasn't developed by enlightened human rights warriors to benefit the poor and downtrodden - its whole point was the protection of material possessions. And material possessions, by and large, accrued to men.

It is a testament to some men of property and the tenaciousness of those outsiders, that the systems we have work as well as they do. And it is evident that the system still disadvantages many.

GoldenWonderwall · 08/08/2018 23:38

Might not know much about c++, maybe we’re a bit more BASIC Smile

(A cheesy computing joke as basic code was created by a woman. Also no one harping on about men’s supremacy c in 2018 on a thread about horrific animal torture has either a sense of humour or understanding of appropriate context).

thebewilderness · 08/08/2018 23:45

This is an utterly facile statement. The very concept of "human rights" exist because men made them up.

FYI, I am still chortling over your utterly facile response to what you declare an utterly facile statement.

UptonSnodbury · 08/08/2018 23:47

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 08/08/2018 23:50

That doesn't change the fact that men came up with pretty much all of the good stuff.

Really? I shall drink to the ridiculousness of that statement with a nice glass of beer, (women).

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 23:59

Look MRAs.

I know you crave mother's milk and this site is called Mumsnet, but you are big boys and no one here is going to offer you their breast no matter how much you pester.