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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

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CaitlynsCat · 29/07/2018 02:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

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Voice0fReason · 29/07/2018 23:28

We are supposed to accept that transwomen don't like their penis and they feel like a woman. They have dysphoria apparently. We are also supposed to accept that a transwoman's penis is soft and feminine.

But Jess is happy to take her penis out in an assortment of public places and possibly at work and take photographs of it for sexual pleasure. Then post those pictures along with rape and incest pictures and one of an erect penis in a school, all on a public blog, and this is all supposed to be ok?

We should accept that people like Jess are women and are no risk to females in female only spaces? Anyone who uses their penis for sexual pleasure has no place in women's spaces.

And the fact that we are forced into writing "her penis" is absurd. Every definition of penis is "the male genital organ"

bluescreen · 29/07/2018 23:29

MK
BirthCanal
No way. The evidence was there to be seen even if it was a transexual (which I don't believe for a moment). Likeacrow was a tra plant.

If you say so.
I'm no apologist for it: it's all hateful and destructive. I wish people would wake up.

Mxyzptlk · 29/07/2018 23:34

How public was the blog?

Vickyyyy · 29/07/2018 23:38

I don't think JB had a clue this was coming. Sexual predator's confidence tends to increase when they go unchallenged.

I would agree with this. I think the taking a photo of ones own dick while at ones own workstation, which is pretty easy to identify..kind of proves how confident Bradley was that they would not be found out. I imagine it escalated from flashing random people or in random areas, to doing it in areas where Bradley could be caught. Whether the thrill of the possibility of being caught was part of it..I don't know. But even if it was I doubt Bradley ever seriously thought it would come out.

I think this is also at play with the behaviour of transactivists actually, the more bizarre their behaviour is and is still defended, the more they push it, and I think this is to do with their male entitlement tbh. They alienate a few more of their 'supporters' with each tweet, article, whatever, but they do not actually realise this. Especially given they autoblock anyone who disagrees with then. So maybe to them it IS still just a few 'terfs' who are fighting them, where it seems to me that the country is waking up to it all.

LittlePaintBox · 29/07/2018 23:39

I mean that's lovely and all but I don't think most people are going to be willing to accept that as an excuse for getting your cock out at your desk at work.

Imagining the scene and wondering if it counts as consent:

'Does anyone mind if I get my cock out?'

Embarrassed silence

'Fine, I'll take that as a yes, shall I'

Gets cock out

UpstartCrow · 29/07/2018 23:42

Mxyzptlk It was on Tumblr, and could be seen by anyone logged in to Tumblr who's settings allowed adult content.

SanctimoniousMorph · 29/07/2018 23:44

This may have been posted earlier in the thread but, in case not, Jess' lawyers were obviously successful in scaring off the Sun from publishing the details of this story:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/6883375/sun-barred-exposing-union-official-flasher-cliff-ruling/

A reminder (sorry - no share token) about Jess' influence:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/action-for-trans-health-activists-want-free-sex-change-hormones-for-children-dhvv5c52v

In particular:

Action for Trans Health (ATH) and its director, Jess Bradley, were central to the recent parliamentary inquiry that recommended controversial reforms — which the government will soon consult on — allowing transgender people to change sex on demand.

Bradley, who gave oral evidence to the inquiry, and her group were cited seven times in the MPs’ report, which adopted several of ATH’s recommendations and claims.

She also says she has “trained hundreds of medical staff for the NHS and private providers”.

Recent NHS-funded events and training organised by her group include a course on “trans cancer awareness” in Manchester and a “trans master class” in Wigan. ATH has been contracted for work by Manchester city council and is a consultation partner for NHS England.

Vickyyyy · 29/07/2018 23:45

Unfortunately where there are genuine issues such as rights for the trans community, there will be those that jump on it and use it for their own sick agenda. Of course I’m not suggesting that anyone is a child abuser here, but there is definitely something very unsettling about handing over so many rights (men using changing rooms) etc that will inevitably be abused by those intent on doing wrong.

Of course there will be abusers of everything. However I fear in this case, the abusers have totally taken over the agenda and have scared off any actual transsexual people ...by much the same behaviour they demonstrate now to 'terfs'. With violence and threats and a name meant to dehumanize..thing is, feminists are quite used to being abused by MRAs and 'can handle it' (best way I could think to put that) where transsexual people on the whole will be people trying to keep their heads down and get on with their life. So while it appears todays TRAs have frightened transsexuals into silence, it was not realistically going to work with feminists.

I am extremely concerned about what you say here. Even moreso when I think about the push for puberty blockers for children, essentially creating 'legal children'. Alas, my post will probably go poof soon because apparently we are not meant to talk about this aspect of it all. Because if we pretend its not happening, then it wont Confused

lizzzyyliveson · 29/07/2018 23:46

There are men who do exactly that, LittlePaintBox. John Barrowman springs to mind. Chris Evans also has form for this.

NoSquirrels · 29/07/2018 23:47

How public was the blog?

Why?

I believe it was Tumblr. But why does it matter?

Elected representative. Comes with a duty of care. Regardless of whether it “wasn’t unlawful”, it sure as hell wasnt sonething most people (of any ‘gender’) would vote for. And it was public enough to be found. What else matters?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 29/07/2018 23:51

People too ‘liberal’ and too ‘right on’ to raise their suspicions

This comes up in serious case review after serious case review where a child has suffered serious abuse or has died, although the reviews are supposed to point out lessons learned from that case. This particular one never is learned. It's often termed as 'being unwilling to ask the difficult questions'.

It was a key factor in Victoria Climbie's death, and heavily flagged up in the inquiry and white paper following, and there were comments after the Baby P and Daniel Pelka reviews that the exact same traps had been fallen into again. People are still not willing to ask the difficult questions in safeguarding, to consider 'what if this adult is not in good faith', to risk saying things that might anger and upset the adults involved, and in effect prioritise being supportive of the adults' interests and emotional needs over the safety of the child.

Tww1 · 30/07/2018 00:05

The best thing about exposing Bradley’s exposure as a parent means I can present an other side to the glitter family.
If Bradley was part of the government’s discussion on GRA and has influenced the NHS which are the two institutions that he reads up on as being the holy grail, I can say yes but do you know Bradley does this....
So happy. I got a real life argument.
I hope the NHS will see this and see Mermaids too and realise they have been indoctrinated by people who actually do immoral acts. In my opinion

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 00:05

Just skim read but likeacrow, many people new to this have found the following thread helpful:

[https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me]]

apologies if its already been linked!

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 00:05

clicky link www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Tww1 · 30/07/2018 00:06

Two institutions that my son reads up on. **

thebewilderness · 30/07/2018 00:12

I guess this explains why Trans4 manifesto required all transgenders be released from prison, eh?

LaSquirrel · 30/07/2018 00:18

OK, so help me out here, a little confused by the accounts and financials going on for ATH.

From the blog post here you can download a PowerPoint which talks about £11,041 for 2015-16.

But if you go to Companies House, and look at the lodged financials, just one simple figure in each year:
2015 = £1,007
2016 = £0
2017 = £137

No mention of the £11k in any of those accounts. What am I missing here?

Tww1 · 30/07/2018 00:20

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SunsetBeetch · 30/07/2018 00:20

Lemonjello ! Grin

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 00:28

I hope the NHS will see this and see Mermaids too and realise they have been indoctrinated by people who actually do immoral acts. In my opinion

recent threads with discussion of Mermaids including links to targetting of WPUK:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3314779-The-Times-reporting-on-the-harassment-of-A-Womans-Place-UK

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3312890-Telegraph-article-Facebook-accused-of-censorship-WPUk

BlackeyedSusan · 30/07/2018 00:31

trello board? surely Rowan the walking encyclopedia of all things fwr would be the ideal person to start this, or someone just advance searching rowans posts and putting all her material together.

has anyone written to the organisations who used this person for training or advice to ask whether they would like to reconsider the appropriateness of this advice/advice source.

LaSquirrel · 30/07/2018 00:43

Olennas aked:

I wonder if JB is still married and what her wife makes of the recent allegations?

I too was a little curious, but probably not still together, according to these movements. Does answer the NHS connections I guess.

It was a weird phrasing of "my flatmate and wife" in the raid post.

silentcrow · 30/07/2018 00:55

Recent NHS-funded events and training organised by her group include a course on “trans cancer awareness” in Manchester and a “trans master class” in Wigan. ATH has been contracted for work by Manchester city council and is a consultation partner for NHS England.

Anyone feel brave enough to prod Mayor Andy Burnham on this point? Given that he apparently does so much work/fundraising for the homeless, there's got to be a huge safeguarding issue for shelters here, but he's not referred to it at all as far as I can see. I'm not a constituent, unfortunately, it'd probably have more clout from someone closer.

genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 01:29

I would remind everyone that trying to deny the rights of trans people for the actions of an individual meets the definition of collective punishment, a war crime under the Geneva convention.

So enough of this no true Scotswoman malarkey! There are women who are rapists and sex offenders, some of them are trans.

As for women's spaces, if someone enters a place with the intention of committing a crime, they've still committed a crime even if they were entitled to be in the women's space because of gender recognition laws.

Mxyzptlk · 30/07/2018 01:36

And we know their intention, how?