Parents who won't 'affirm' 8 yr old gender change being referred to social services

[Wanderabout]

This is really, really disturbing:
mobile.twitter.com/cwknews/status/1022394312556990465

This isn't sensible NHS doctors who are training or advising professionals to do this, based on firm evidence.

This is adult transactivists such as this transwoman:

mobile.twitter.com/cwknews/status/1022397462114443265

Hasn't Tara Hewitt also been attacking the NHS GIDS clinic currently, for trying to have an evidence-based discussion?

Clicky links attempt:

mobile.twitter.com/cwknews/status/1022394312556990465

mobile.twitter.com/cwknews/status/1022397462114443265

Ack, the wickedness of these people is breath taking. I'm running out of words to adequately express disgust.

Hasn't Tara Hewitt also been attacking the NHS GIDS clinic currently, for trying to have an evidence-based discussion?

YY. I posted a screenshot where Tara and other TRAs complained about the use of ROGD by Tavistock clinicians.

That's nice Tara. Perhaps then they'll end up in a children's home like in this article. Clearly in their best interests.

www.buzzfeed.com/richholmes/care-price?utm_term=.jo0r5xBB2D#.xvNn1QXXxq

Tara is not in any way trained or qualified to be overruling the Tavistock.

The result of this will be children not getting the help that they need because parents will be too afraid to take their children to a therapist, which will only leave the child more open to online grooming. When a situation like this is created I find it's useful to as the "who benefits?" question. Who benefits from parents being scared away from accessing help for their children? Who benefits from children being taken away from their parents and put into what we now know to be a very dangerous care system?

Hasn't Tara Hewitt also been attacking the NHS GIDS clinic currently, for trying to have an evidence-based discussion?

See Tara Hewitt's twitter:
twitter.com/Tara_Hewitt/status/1021674895896403968?s=20

from current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3315676-ROGDWEEK2018?pg=2

I don't know if Tara Hewitt is still employed directly by the NHS or doing consultancy work for them.

She has been in the past: remote.com/tarahewitt
interview with Tara Hewitt:
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/what-its-like-transgender-catholic-10810323

delivering training to HCPs 'Trans people and cancer session'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3RfsVu73Q

See also Tara Hewitt's and NHS Trans Health twitter response to Jury's Inn Brighton hiring room to WPUK.

Cheers Rowan for that tweet with Joss, I couldn't remember where I put it!

tweet by Stephanie Davis Arai (Transgender Trend) linked previously
mobile.twitter.com/cwknews/status/1022397462114443265

with reference to both Mermaids & Tara Hewitt's description of own role & influence

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3317247-daughter-with-rogd-issues-with-school?msgid=79728227#79728227

This was what brought me here originally. I was rubbing shoulders with TRAs who were in SW and related fields who were there deliberately to make sure that children who in any way identified with trans anything were referred for treatment and/or parents referred to CP.

Thanks Rowantrees.

Met up with an old school friend of mine last week.

Their friend had Mermaids come to give a talk at their daughter's school. Following this their daughter decided she was a boy.

The parents had to leave the school because it went down the immediate unquestioning affirmation route with no independent medical advice or input.

They went to another school and their daughter is now happy and has forgotten all about thinking she was a boy.

How are these random adults mostly biologically male having sway over schools and kids education with NO oversight or input from sensible medics or safeguarding professionals.

Feels like the NHS is mentioned a lot by TRAs recently, what with the whole thing about the lesbian protestors at Pride TAKING THE PLACE OF and TRAMPLING ON NHS representatives. I wonder if it’s because the general public image of ‘NHS workers’ is so very different to someone like Tara Hewitt, so it’s easier to bring in sympathy from people who aren’t familiar with all of this

I was rubbing shoulders with TRAs who were in SW and related fields who were there deliberately to make sure that children who in any way identified with trans anything were referred for treatment and/or parents referred to CP.

That is incredibly disturbing. Obviously you may not be able to say but how did these cases pan out? How could the SW possibly be seen as impartial here?

It reminds me a bit of the ritual abuse thing in the 1970s. They establishment was taken over by an orthodoxy that was impossible to resist or even question. Medics and social workers who tried to resist lost their jobs....

Sorry - I was (and am) trying to write so obliquely that I confused the issue. These people were activists so doing more in that line. But a couple were heading towards CP fields (studying) and I strongly suspect that if employed there they would have an agenda because they were quite explicit re this being what they wanted.

BertrandRussell I recently watched a documentary on that topic, linked from a thread here. Probably 4-6 months ago now? Anyway. We (rightly) talk a lot about social contagion with regards to ROGD in teens, but I think we don't talk enough about social contagion amongst adults and in professions. It's real; it's happened before - especially when money is involved.

If you couple the training of professionals to threaten a social worker if parents will not affirm their child is the opposite sex on the young child's say so with the following, you get a very concerning picture:

1. Teach very young children in school that if they feel like they are the opposite sex this means they are:

www.gires.org.uk/classroom-lesson-plans/

1. Entirely unrelated online world that says the same thing and social contagion:

mobile.twitter.com/itsjillgardner/status/1022077824096710656

1. Extreme pressure on medical professionals to be affirmation only and not explore why a young child may be saying/feeling they are the opposite sex:

mobile.twitter.com/katepsychfem/status/1020957247357227008

Is it any wonder there has been a massive increase in the number of GIDS referrals of young girls in particular?

Their friend had Mermaids come to give a talk at their daughter's school. Following this their daughter decided she was a boy.

See recent threads:

Times article discusses role played by twitter account mimmymum (Helen from Mermaids):
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3314779-The-Times-reporting-on-the-harassment-of-A-Womans-Place-UK

Also discussion following recent Victoria Derbyshire program which focussed on Mermaids' work and some of the young people and parents involved:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294478-Victoria-Derbyshire-show-today-transgender-children-buying-time-by-delaying-puberty

Graph showing dramatic increase in under 18 referrals to NHS Gender Identity Development Services in recent years:

mobile.twitter.com/AlfredBelpaire/status/1022421522365997057

It really is like the whole ritual abuse myth / scandal of the 80's / 90's isn't it? We have a group of activists / experts who appear to believe, uncritically, in something with cultic fervour. They are making their living by selling their "expertise" to public and private organisations, threatening parents who disagree with their world view with the removal of their children.

With regards NHS the challenge to Dr Polly Carmichael and the GIDs / Tavistock approach by many prominant TRAs was very visible (Twitter) during the Westminster Social Policy Forum.

This was a very significant event with highly influential speakers.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3268237-Westminster-Social-Policy-forum-today-Next-steps-for-transgender-Equality-WSPFEvents

They are going to struggle to keep the lid on ROGD. It seems,to me, to be the biggest increasing cohort at the moment.

Criticising the Tavistock looks like an own goal.

People like Polly Carmichael come across as fairly circumspect when talking publicly about transgenderism.

If their work is directly threatened, I imagine that might change.

Datun yes, that has been my thought too.

The individuals, groups and organisations who have been part of the criticism is significant.

I wonder what happened in14/15 to cause that pronounced upturn?

On the graph I mean