A woman is an adult female human

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Of the sex whose reproductive role is to gestate and bear young.

Let's just say this while we still can. Because it's true, and however many people try to make us lie about it, or remain silent, it will always be true.

In times of universal deceit, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

It hurts MY feelings to see 'transwomen are women'. It damages MY mental health to see that, it makes ME feel erased and MY identity feel destroyed. I have a voice and I deserve that voice. WE deserve it.

I am Spartacus. A woman is an adult female human. Sex is binary, immutable and defined by reproductive role.

If you report me, or get me banned you shoot the messenger. Because this is true and will always be true. And this day, this day of a lie, I WILL say it.

#Spartacus

OK. I have no problem with calling transpeople whatever they want to be called, and I will happily give them their probouns. In practically all circumstances i think most people don't see a problem. And of course trans people should have all the rights that other people have. But there are some very specific areas where natal women's needs and wants come first. Maybe that's where consensus could come?

A woman is an adult female human.

Biology is NOT bigotry.

Don't make me search 14 pages, who said ''you're either with us, or you're against us!''?

Is it as helpful as doxxing women, or #nodebate, or a bomb threat, or getting punched in the face?

Well you either think a woman is an adult female human or you don't. There's no middle ground. People keep saying it is t, so we will keep saying it is. Difference being, we can offer our reasoning, and justify it. I'm happy to rub along with people. But they don't seem to want to rub along with me.

So who do you stand for @MNHQ? your users? or a group of people who actively despise your users, and your site?

Yes I'd like to know.

MN is offering me some clothes I might buy. M and S have given up on me at last.

The Big Lie Propaganda Technique and its origins:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

And

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

There are so many other propaganda techniques being deliberately used, I don't know where to begin.

Even the phrase 'transwomen are woman' is an example of a thought ending cliche.

Why do you need so much propaganda? Does the truth not stand alone on its own merit?

Liberalism roots come from belief in the truth as the means to set you free.

Never ever lose sight of it.

A woman is an adult human female. It is not uncivil to say this once or a million times. Happy for people to debate it all they want as I believe in free speech. It won't alter the fact that a woman is an adult human female.

There. Said it twice. I am stunned by the moderator comments on this thread.

Snappity

Do not appropriate the experiences of women who have had hysterectomies. This is beyond the realms of civility and so I have not said please.

Ofgs snappy. This thread not about that stuff. Leave off

I think this is it. We say what a woman is, describe it, justify it and explain how TWAW is logically and empirically impossible. In the other country we have appropriation of a million other unrelated causes: racism, homophobia, infertility, teenage confusion, teenage self-harm, intersex people, hysterectomy and so on, rather than any definition, explanation or justification, alternates with emotional blackmail, instructions to be kind, and accusations of bigotry. We have 'sex is defined by reproductive role, binary and immutable' and, of course, material reality.

trans women aren't trained how to establish a proper balance
No-one with a naturally-occurring vagina is trained in that either. It just happens, naturally, because it's an actual vagina and that's what they do.

Oh look at that. The serendipitous cross post.

Not trained in maintaining a proper balance?

Right, ive obviously been missed off the training list, who is bloody responsible for that id like to know!!!

So people understand that if sex is not defined by reproductive role, there is no concept of sexual to actually reside in the brain? There is no 'male' or 'female' if you divorce it from reproductive role.

Just as men claim that transwomen are women they also claim that a surgically created cavity is a female internal organ.
Beliefs that only a gullible child would believe. Which is why the focus conversion on children.

Sex not sexual there. Hope it's understandable.

*RatRolyPoly

Datun it's an either/or situation though is it. At least it needn't be. No-one should go around saying "you're either with us, or you're against us!" - and yet so many do. And that's not helpful.

Most people just want to rub along in society with all sorts of people they don't necessarily agree with. No-one wants anyone to be made more vulnerable than others, no-one wants us to be unequal, and most just want to get along. They draw sensible lines, like "toilets are fine, rape crisis centres not so much" and "sure, I'll call a transwoman a woman in a social context".

The lie is that the word woman does not mean adult human female.

If you can't even decide on the terms, how can you start to address the circumstances?

There have been numerous threads about how far women are prepared to go. That's not news. Many women have many different limits.

The lie starts with Penny Mordaunt saying transwomen are women.

It's essential to unpick that lie, before you can even start on anything else.

So glad I'm Muslim and segregation by sex in many facilities is mandatory and female (adult human women ) only spaces are , quite literally , a - god given right .

Thats what happens when im distracted by the football

Crosspost

Apparently there is no training

Stand down everyone

You don't train to be a woman.

You just are one. Or you are trying to mimic one and so by definition, are not one.

That's just stating what the trans prefix actually means.

You can not BE something you are trying to copy.

This isn't about being sensitive or trying to be malicious.

You are what you are what you are.

Its not a bad thing. Merely a neutral one.

Sorry, new clicky link. You can call it neovaginal discharge but it's not vaginal discharge, Snappity. The flora is quite different, as the paper confirms.

The researchers were looking at neovaginas that were established (abt 6 years) - not new ones - and say "although this was not a study criterion and therefore not scored, a foul smell of the vagina was observed in most patients."

Training???

Well, fuck.

Was my vagina supposed to come with a manual??