"Cotton Ceiling" evidence thread

[Ereshkigal]

I don't want to take this over as a straight feminist woman but am troubled at the blithe denial on other threads. This is a thread to post evidence of lesbophobia from transactivists and trans allies. I will start with the fragrant Morgane Oger:

mobile.twitter.com/fedupfemme/status/1013132702147588097

Omg that poor terrified woman. It's just fucking anti-lesbian bullying. Monstrous.

There are no AMAB lesbians. There are no male lesbians. THEY DO NOT EXIST AND IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THREATEN A LESBIAN WITH RAPE FOR BEING A LESBIAN YOU MONSTERS.

It's horrible, isn't it. She's made about 6 grovelling apologies now, but they're still going.

Not a lesbian, but have many lesbian friends and acquaintances, some few dearly loved for decades who I would trust with my life and did trust with my tiny children years ago.

To summarise the message here, we're being told: "Let me (a transwoman with intact male genitalia) tell you about yourselves. Your thinking is wrong. Your beliefs are wrong. I understand how and why you are wrong but you don't. I can tell you how to woman better, how to lesbian better. You need to listen only to me and ignore what you mistakenly think you know. You need to act as I tell you to. If you don't you are a fake and a failure and a sad loser missing out on all the fun. You don't know how sad your life has been without me."

In other words, everything every loud-mouthed drunken straight man ever said to any lesbian, any woman, who ever rejected his crude advances. 🤷🏼‍♀️

What is notably absent is any awareness of concepts like consent, bodily autonomy, respect, common humanity, sisterhood.

This is why I can never accept that someone talking like this is a woman. Every syllable reeks of male privilege and entitlement.

Also bi. And saddened but unsurprised to read a PP's experience with dating.

“But you’re bi” they’d whine “I don’t get the problem”. Apparently being bi meant I owed any random trans person sex, despite not finding them remotely attractive. I dread to think how bad it must have got now.

Of course they 'don't get the problem'. That's because the problem is tet another instance of a woman saying 'no' and a male-bodied person hearing something else.

The label they're looking for is 'pansexual', which means attracted to all gender/genital combinations. (And doubtless even that wouldn't be enough to satisfy the terminally-entitled, as it doesn't necessarily mean attraction to every single human who thinks you have a God-given obligation to provide them with sex).

Anyone else is out of bounds. The word 'no' places them there, with entitlement to their own physical boundaries, for any reason or for no reason at all. Explanations are not a requirement.

It's a sad indictment of the times that this still has to be pointed out in 2020 but unfortunately attitudes have regressed rather than the reverse.

Back in the 1970s, people with penises called women who didn't want sex with them "lesbians", because there's no way a heterosexual woman could resist them. Today people with penises tell lesbians who don't want sex with them they're not proper lesbians.

In a world full of change, thank god we can still rely on people with penises to tell us how to be women.