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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WPUK Brighton Meeting: Turning the Tide

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PlonitbatPlonit · 29/06/2018 20:43

Tickets now available to hear Kathleen Stock, Helen Saxby, Gill Smith and Ruth Serwotka in Brighton on 16 July

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-turning-the-tide-tickets-47592125328

Helen Saxby's blog notthenewsinbriefs.wordpress.com/

Article by Gill Smith www.transgendertrend.com/lesbian-detransitioner-must-question-primary-solution/

Kathleen Stock's blog medium.com/@kathleenstock

Article by Ruth Serwotka morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-do-we-need-new-womens-movement

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Cascade220 · 16/07/2018 18:25

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Ucantarguewistupid · 16/07/2018 18:29

Why don't we play them at their own game? Threaten the venue we will protest that they are discriminating against women, refusing us to meet and debate? Women with placards standing outside that clearly state what it is we are contesting? Flyers with this printed on as examples that even ifnthere is only one trans person who feels this way it is one trans person too many? Maybe email these examples to the venue and ask them if they have mothers, sisters, wives or daughters? Ask would they be happy if as a straight male to find the women they are about to get intimate with has a penis or a gay male to find theyre about to get intimate with a vagina - are they happy thwir father, brother, or son could also be facing this?
twitter.com/Gnarly_Charl/status/1015904535003291649?s=20

rad-trans-womyn.tumblr.com/post/136823597752/terf-fantasy

transgender-uber-alles.tumblr.com/post/141035789689/radfems-arent-real-lesbians

Why let the trans group have the threat of boycott and protest? Being accused of supporting people alleged to be transphobic but I can't see how they'd enjoy protesters accusing them of supporting rape apologists....

Melamin · 16/07/2018 18:32

I think that it would just end up in a mud slinging match. Sad

WPUK want as many people as possible to understand what is happening.

PlonitbatPlonit · 16/07/2018 18:38

The venue is not preventing the meeting, we don't need to protest them!

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daimbars · 16/07/2018 18:39

The location is out on Twitter, please stay safe guys.

The location I saw on Twitter does not match the location in the email.

Ucantarguewistupid · 16/07/2018 18:42

Not if we don't engage. Just stand and let signs and fliers do the talking. It's their words. Their posts. They can only argue that it's a small minority - but even the most disengaged person woukd be able to work out that this is proof their demands are not something that should ever be allowed to happen, that they or a loved one could end up a victim of this small minority and that it also proves that self ID is open to abuse. Placards stating what the girl guides allow on residential. I watched a right on parents face when I told them. They have a daughter. Their face fell and they could not hide their horror. Another person I spoke to who wanted to be right on said outright that no, happy as they were for males to live according to the gender they identify with that that is a line too far and the Self ID open to abuse. They knew nothing about all this. Just thought trans people wanted to live as women - they hadn't thought through possible implications with supporting their right to live entirely as women do.

Let the trans people and allies scream and shout abuse - if women stand tall calm and quiet it would be easy to see who the hate group is.

Ucantarguewistupid · 16/07/2018 18:43

Sorry - thiught id read they were. But a thought for the future...

NotTerfNorCis · 16/07/2018 18:43

Good to know daimbars. Must be someone guessing.

Destinysdaughter · 16/07/2018 18:48

Does anyone know if this is going to be broadcast online?

Hope it goes well and everyone is safe 💜

VaggieMight · 16/07/2018 18:52

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Melamin · 16/07/2018 18:57

the terfblocker is asking for the venue to be DM'd Hmm

Stay safe and enjoy. That is the best way to get the upper hand Grin

Melamin · 16/07/2018 18:57

Don't forget to tweet though

Ereshkigal · 16/07/2018 18:59

They're already going after the venue.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:05

I know - they are being silly. What is a hotel going to do to a transperson to make them not safe if some women meet in one - it's not like they are secretly putting people into pies round the back Grin

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:06

(Not sure if that is sweeny todd or peter grimes Confused )

Ereshkigal · 16/07/2018 19:10

It's this whole conflation of narcissistic injury with physical violence. And yes not getting their way in everything may feel like an injury to the narcissist. But that doesn't actually make it one.

TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 19:26

There is a lively protest outside the venue. Police are here to prevent obstruction. It’s a shame they don’t come in and talk. They’d find we’re not what they say we are. #wpuk

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BN1bod · 16/07/2018 19:27

Plenty of people here. The small protests are not putting people off, and police and security are keeping a watchful eye. Lots of pre meeting chatting and friends being made. Well done WPUK.

TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 19:30

Good on you all BN1bod! Wish I was there

pombear · 16/07/2018 19:35

The fact that trans right activists think it's a really great positive thing to do to try to 'take over' the #WPUK hashtag with this:-

For this evening we're using #WPUK to represent a Woman's Pleasure UK - tweet images and share links about women's pleasure!

makes me see even more what this movement is about. Completely fucked up (and the title of their takeover sounds like some very odd '70s sex manual!)

Trying to over-speak women talking about women's rights by asking for examples of 'women's pleasure' on twitter is exactly why those females are some transpeople are gathering in Brighton tonight. The underlying trans rights agenda is so obvious it's peacocking all over the place!

pombear · 16/07/2018 19:37

spelling error in last post: those females and some transpeople are gathering! Not suggesting all the brave females are transpeople (though the brave transpeople are!)

NotTerfNorCis · 16/07/2018 19:41

That women's pleasure hashtag has been full of kittens and chocolate in the past, patronising AF.

SPOFS · 16/07/2018 19:42

What a the protestors saying/ doing?

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:44

Who cares? It's what is going on at the meeting that is interesting.
Brighton: what is at stake is the actual meaning of the word woman and our ability to organise as a sex class.

thebewilderness · 16/07/2018 19:45

Once the official position of LGBT organizations is that women-s rights are anti-trans and the leadership confesses to being both homophobic and misogynist there is noting left for the Followers of Genderism to do but try to terrorize women into silence and businesses into assisting in silencing women.

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