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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WPUK Brighton Meeting: Turning the Tide

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PlonitbatPlonit · 29/06/2018 20:43

Tickets now available to hear Kathleen Stock, Helen Saxby, Gill Smith and Ruth Serwotka in Brighton on 16 July

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-turning-the-tide-tickets-47592125328

Helen Saxby's blog notthenewsinbriefs.wordpress.com/

Article by Gill Smith www.transgendertrend.com/lesbian-detransitioner-must-question-primary-solution/

Kathleen Stock's blog medium.com/@kathleenstock

Article by Ruth Serwotka morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-do-we-need-new-womens-movement

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TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 19:45

Their ways to debase us are through violence and sex #revertingtoform

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:48

Women’s voices are ignored, feminist women’s voices are especially ignored and lesbian women’s voices are even more ignored’
Accepting the silencing tactic of iterating ‘transwomen are women’ means that women as a sex class would not have any distinct and separate rights.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:50

They are spamming the hotel twitter with 'a womans pleasure' links - that looks unhinged Confused

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:51

They are going through the Allsorts pack at the meeting.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:53

There are quite a few tweeting on #wpuk this time and they are getting through. You just have to look through the spammers and there are only about 3 of those.

PlonitbatPlonit · 16/07/2018 19:53

Please also TWEET on #WPUK so that you can be heard beyond mumsnet! You are all awesome for going, hope you are enjoying.

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TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 19:54

Yes...do go on. It's opened my eyes even further!

Ereshkigal · 16/07/2018 19:55

Trying to over-speak women talking about women's rights by asking for examples of 'women's pleasure' on twitter is exactly why those females are some transpeople are gathering in Brighton tonight. The underlying trans rights agenda is so obvious it's peacocking all over the place!

This.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 19:59

We have to question how young lesbians are treated. I’m not anti-trans. I thought I was Trans - that’s to say I thought my life would be better as Trans
This is a serious issue. We are talking about teenagers and their bodies.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:03

Biological sex is a material reality
Rules and roles based on your sex which tell you how you should or shouldn’t behave. This is a problem. It naturalises women’s (lower) social place in society
You’re not abnormal or not good enough if you reject these roles. I hope lesbians don’t forget that we have been medicalised, fetishised, distorted, erased, analysed. *added the word in italics - think it got lost

TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 20:05

Their responses to the Nazi tweet say it all for me. Just let the tweets stack up and do not engage.
Do share your support though for @WomansPlaceuk

KataraJean · 16/07/2018 20:05

Place-marking ⭐️

Ereshkigal · 16/07/2018 20:06

No comment. From the desperate attempted hashtag takeover:

https://twitter.com/antoniamichele7/status/1018934171752894465?s=20

TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 20:06

When I say their, I mean trans activists.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:06

My problem was not my body. Nor was my brain. I felt alienated, isolated. The more I separated from girls, I separated my mind from my body
I don’t think queer theory is right. It’s just creating more boxes. We need to smash all boxes
You can have short hair; dress in clothes associated with opposite sex. You do not have to change your body. Society has to change. You can be still be a woman

For anyone trying to follow @womansplaceuk seems to be the best link on twitter twitter.com/Womans_Place_UK Just click on 'latest'

TheBiologicalWoman · 16/07/2018 20:08

They should leave the tweets. It's further evidence of who they really are.
Sex and violence.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:09

WomansPlaceUK‏ @WomansPlaceUK · 2m2 minutes ago

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I didn’t get any help from organisations who are meant to be looking out for young lesbians. The only women who helped me were the women in my family. No LGBT org helped me
Message to young girls - I am here. There are lots of women you can talk to you who will help you. Talk to them
Loud applause for @reckoner80 - great testimony from someone who has been on this journey and come back
Next up @Docstockk on how philosophy works - we have ideas, we back them up. I support Trans people to live their lives without fear or violence

OvaHere · 16/07/2018 20:09

The things TRAs think are women's pleasures is hilarious. Brass rubbings, kittens and nice dresses apparently

I feel like there's a Fast Show sketch to accompany that.

Grin
daimbars · 16/07/2018 20:10

What a the protestors saying/ doing?

Peaceful protests saying TWAW and TMAM.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:11

Important to distinguish between trans people and transactivists. Well funded transactivist groups don’t represent all Trans people
Conflicts of interest are a common feature in political life. I believe there are some important conflicts of interest. Transactivists say there is no impact on biological women
Services, representation and provision for women are already in short supply. We are being asked to give these meagre resources up then women lose out

Popchyk · 16/07/2018 20:11

Thanks for the updates Melamin.

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:13

We are being forced into a complete re-understanding of what a woman is. This inevitably has an impact and is something women want to discuss

Ereshkigal · 16/07/2018 20:13

Yes thank you Melamin!

Melamin · 16/07/2018 20:14

What silenced women? Aggressive responses ideas; accusations of whipping up moral panic or denying existence of trans people or being ‘unkind’. No-one tries that shit with men...

LemonJello · 16/07/2018 20:16

I quite like the attempted hashtag takeover. Great updates from the wpuk meeting interspersed with cute kittens and whatnot. What’s not to like?

Fannybaws talking about terfs working themselves into a fever followed by a long deep orgasm is more the kind of thing to get me to close my browser 😂