Great piece by academic Kathleen Stock (mentions MN)

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medium.com/@kathleenstock/when-bindels-speak-b305625a7521

So so good.

Kathleen is bloody heroic and that is a great piece. Since she decided to go full above the parapet, she's got better and better and is always so courteous and amiable.

This bit made me laugh because it seems applicable to the deleterious state of affairs hereabouts:

Even though I mention these as exemplary sentences, rather than assert them myself, I assume that at least some readers think I just wrote something awful.

I leave it aside for the moment, on the assumption that most readers aren’t so sophomoric

LOL and burn!

Please, everyone read it. Killer last line - right up my (fucking) alley.

Bloody hell. I'm gushing. Yay me! I can gush! Who knew?

Excellent!

Marvellous!

Well worth a read.

The whole last paragraph is the crux of the matter.

Women are being told that they shouldn't say things that men don't like. And definitely shouldn't do anything to stop men getting what they want.

Excellent. Hurray for feminist philosophers.

Brilliant summation of the issue from a female perspective. Hopefully the MN management team will read it and learn.

Awesome!

Brilliant article - a breath of fresh air - and oh so true.

Rather than just naming the problem (that transwomen don't like to be misgendered), this article has given some reasons for why the problem exists and at least a couple have helped me to understand why these reasons never felt real to me - that their arguments seemed spurious.

And yes, Mumsnet would do well to read this and to understand that we don't express our fears here with the express intention of hurting transwomen/men, this is not necessarily their space and why would they be reading it? Other than to search out examples of the "literal violence" they feel they must justify.

Brilliant. The last para in particular made me 'LOL' and I am someone who feels the need to put 'LOL' in inverted commas.

Great article. @mnhq, you should read it.

Great article

Specially this bit

Next time a natal woman expresses herself in a way you find unattractive, unseemly, unkind, or downright rude about ...... why not shut the fuck up and keep it to yourself.

Obviously the ...... represents the part of my post that would get my post deleted

Brilliant article.

Read, copied and shared - brilliant article

Maybe someone could make sure mumsnet reads it.

Or maybe I’ll get banned just for saying that. I did in fact hesitate to type it, for that very reason.

Really great article. It does beg the question of if MN is such a hotbed of transphobic vipers, why would those who feel particularly sensitive about these things venture onto a gender critical forum. Are they looking to be offended?

That is breathtakingly good.

Brilliant.

And also quite sad in a way because we cannot use language the way we want to. I would love to be able to say exactly what I think, and in real life I do, and in some rather colourful ways, but here and now, I must police myself. Or be banned.

The author only mentions Mumsnet once but it is clear from the context that a lot of her article is drawing on the experience of gender critical feminists on this forum. People are watching.

Excellent article

I enjoyed that. Yay for forthright women!