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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nope, never happens

101 replies

sexnotgender · 23/06/2018 11:44

Man admits filming women in nightclub toilets www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-44577119

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UpstartCrow · 23/06/2018 11:48

But this never happens, so clearly this didn't happen.

If it doesn't happen to anyone reading this, then a red laser pointer will destroy a camera so you probably shouldn't use one as its probably criminal damage.

daimbars · 23/06/2018 11:48

that's a man not a trans woman.

It just proves that if a man wants to be a predatory pervert in women's toilets he just will. He won't bother changing gender first.

UpstartCrow · 23/06/2018 11:50

Huge whooshing noise.

QuarksandLeptons · 23/06/2018 11:51

Clicky link
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-44577119

Serfisafleur · 23/06/2018 11:51

Opening female spaces to transwomen who are indistinguishable from men enables more of this abuse.

AnyFucker · 23/06/2018 11:51

I expect he will suitably punished for this non-event

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 11:52

Daim rushes in with a sweeping brush to try to sweep this story under the carpet.

daimbars · 23/06/2018 11:53

Trans women have been using female toilets legally for 14 years - both pre and post obtaining a GRC and it hasn't happened in the UK.

FloralBunting · 23/06/2018 11:54

Ah, 'sighing'. Did anyone but daim mention transwomen?
Did the argument that 'Men will do shitty things anyway, so let's change the law and social convention to make it easier for them' suddenly become devastatingly convincing, or is it still a defeatist line that enables and excuses abuse?

PositivelyPERF · 23/06/2018 12:01

If one pervert can get in without self id, more perverts will take advantage of the suggested change, in order to take advantage. This is not suggesting that men who want to be women, are perverts, but that perverts will have a field day with self Id. Anyone that wants to disbelieve that, are denying reality.

sexnotgender · 23/06/2018 12:02

Oh a big sigh, that totally discredits the story then, my bad.

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UpstartCrow · 23/06/2018 12:03

Does anyone have a link to the nightclub that has a string of attacks in their trendy unisex loo?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/06/2018 12:14

Yep couldn't happen so let's dismantle all the safeguarding and trust men - right /s

Southfields · 23/06/2018 12:28

Daimbars

Why are you bringing trans issues into everything?

Stop it!

Kettlepotblackagain · 23/06/2018 12:45

But...but....

'A women could have done this too'

'He would have found a way to offend anyway'

'The woman being filmed could have got changed somewhere else/should not have got changed'

'This isn't a trans person'

These statements therefore cancel out what happened and PROVE mixed sex facilities are safe...

daimbars · 23/06/2018 13:21

Oh apologies, it's just a man doing something wrong. Like AF says I'm sure he will be suitably punished, the article says he's due to be sentenced and on the sex offenders register. Didn't realise we were sharing random male sex crimes on here with no context.

NaturalBornWoman · 23/06/2018 13:33

Well this is FWR daim so male sex crimes do come up from time to time.

misscockerspaniel · 23/06/2018 13:55

It just proves that if a man wants to be a predatory pervert in women's toilets he just will. He won't bother changing gender first

It is irrelevant whether or not a predatory pervert bothers to change gender. Those behind self-id want to normalise male access to female loos.

Are we going to be allowed to ask to see proof that they have "changed gender"? Will they be carrying an official ID card? Would it infringe someone's rights to ask for proof? Would women feel safe asking? What about our rights?

CocoaPowder · 23/06/2018 14:11

The narcissism, me me me, make everything about me.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eACohWVwTOc

WanderingWavelet · 23/06/2018 14:29

that totally discredits the story then

Well, you know us women - were do prone to get things wrong, or make things up. Because no man ever harassed women, ever.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/06/2018 15:40

I don't think Daim quite understands what Feminism Chat is for. Its for feminists to discuss issues affecting women.

Dinosaurchicken · 23/06/2018 16:13

It just proves that if a man wants to be a predatory pervert in women's toilets he just will. He won't bother changing gender first

When self ID comes in he won’t need to “change gender” at all.

Randomname234 · 23/06/2018 16:20

I'm sorry but I don't see the relevance to trans issues here. They were both men in your links, they were both prosecuted. Transwoman or not, if anyone attacks or harrases women in bathrooms they will be prosecuted. Self ID won't change that. But then I was sharing a bathroom with a (not quite passing) transwoman only last week. You'll never guess what happened.

They went to the toilet, chatted about make up, then left. shocker

Kettlepotblackagain · 23/06/2018 16:26

Chatted about make up

Grin