I just peak-trans'd again!

[ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen]

Who knew peak-transing could be like multiple orgasms?

Anyway just have to share my story. I was just removed from a feminist Facebook group after someone posted about Trans claiming “they are women” and I replied they weren’t.

Someone then called me a “terf” and “trash” and then > I < got removed despite the fact I didn't use any slurs, call anyone names, just stated that me agreeing that trans-women are women is tantamount to claiming 2+2=5 in Orwell's 1984.

I'd peak-trans'd long ago but this is the icing on my womanly (cause y'know, wimminz love to bake) cake.

Yy to how things were in the 90s when everyone wore eyeliner, nail varnish and big boots and snogged each other. When Eddie Izzard said "they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes" before he became a tosser.

I don't understand why so many people are going along with all this feelz stuff. "I feel like a woman, therefore I'm a woman." I don't feel like a woman, I feel like me. I know I'm a woman because when I was born the midwife saw my vagina and said "It's a girl!" I know I'm a woman because I developed breasts and started my periods. I know I'm a woman because I grew a baby in my womb and pushed it out of my vagina.

Someone famous I follow on Instagram posted ‘some men have vaginas, get over it’ yesterday.
Err no they really don’t mate. Unfollow.

Honestly? Really? You really don't think the human race is divided into male and female? You really believe that biological sex is some kind of spectrum?

I don't think there's much a discussion between rational people can do for you then tbh.

Be careful talking about childbirth or gibberty will be along to suggest that infertile or child free women are no more woman than men too.

Gib really is fielding a full complement of offensive canards, I must say.

Oldcrone
The DSM.
Why is that amazing? It's a well known condition, but trans absolutely hate the classification and are grooming the government via Stonewall to de classify it. That's why we have to have self ID so all fetishists can be get legal female documents.

Do you think I am making this up as I go along?

*"The fact that many transwomen do not understand or hear womens' voices makes it clear to me that they do not experience society as we do."

So you believe that the worth of a woman depends entirely on how well her body conforms to your personal ideal for a woman?*

See! This is why YOU are personally responsible* for peak transing me! It's like you are reading an entirely different thread about an entirely different subject. Talking to you reminds me of that game where you draw a head on a bit of paper and then fold it over and someone else draws the body and folds it and hands it back.

*Partially, anyway,

"Be careful talking about childbirth or gibberty will be along to suggest that infertile or child free women are no more woman than men too."

The opposite. I am the one saying there is no neat biological definition of woman

Picasso I've watched Transparent - Moira isn't AGP? Do you mean a different character?

I'm not saying perverts with AGP who actually do illegal things are not a threat. But seeing as the only documented case in the UK in the last 13 years is Mark Lazarus I'm not losing too much sleep.

trans bashing

Fuck me, I've heard some offensive appropriation in my time from the TRA faction, but equating a woman saying 'transwomen aren't women' with beating up gay people is bloody low on the scale daimbars.

"Amazingly, it seems the answer is yes."

And you will see it is a paraphilia and therefore totally different to the issue of gender identity

But you were happy to use specific types of women and question their womanhood to try to prove your point? Women who may already face discrimination and judgement were considered fair game to you.

Perverts? Are you calling Pippa Bunce a pervert Daim?

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Those claiming bimorphic biological sex have still all refused to answer whether they believe the people on this page are male or female

I answered you, already. Ages ago.

But as you are asking again 'belief' is not part of how I define men and women, so you are asking the wrong question.

What is your definition of woman please gibberty?

BrandNewHouse is again suggesting that we decide who is or is not a woman based on how well a woman's body conforms to BNH's view a proper woman

GibbertyFlibbert I don't know how you conjured that. I do not have a personal ideal for a woman, or judge women against something like that. I know how I define women, and men aren't it.
If some men identify with women, and wish to be treated as such, then I will do so insofar as it doesn't infringe on womens rights, but I cannot be made to believe they are women, nor do I think they have the same disadvantages in our society that women do.

Gibberty, trans people do that all the time, try to use intersex or development abnormalities to explain ladybrain or born in the wrong body. It gets very old. People have explained this to you but you intend on ignoring the answers.

You have been indulged a lot here, and yet you continue to squat on threads like a sulking toddler. Is this the best way to help your partner? Do you get approval for doing this. Are you aware you are harassing and abusing women you don't know in order to satisfy your partner?

So you believe that the worth of a woman depends entirely on how well her body conforms to your personal ideal for a woman?

Jesus Christ, no, it depends on whether a person is female or not.

If DP and I bump uglies, No matter what we are wearing, no matter how we feel, no matter how long our hair is or whether we are wearing makeup, only I will ever become pregnant. That has been the case since conception (although obviously the bumping uglies didn't happen until we were significantly older). And once I am older still, and no-longer fertile, it will still have only been me with the ova, and him with the sperm, and that is what made us female/male and woman/man.

That's how life (literally, life) works. You know this, and you're just being an obnoxious bully to suggest that anything else is the case.

"What is your definition of woman please gibberty?"

I have told you. Anyone whose ID (driving licence, passport and bank account etc) is female. In short, anyone who lives and works as a woman.

I think BrandNewHouse is actually suggesting that biology determines womanhood, not her own personal opinion.

Apologies to BNH if I have misinterpreted her.

There's no biological definition of a woman?? When I was pregnant I had to have several additional scans right up until the last few weeks of my pregnancy, including a MRI of the foetus, as it was possible our daughter had a condition affecting the development of her brain. This particular condition is much more likely to occur in girls than boys (and be worse if it does occur) so more tests are offered if a girl foetus is presenting with it. Should I have said "Nah, don't bother. For all we know she self-id's as a boy."

Those claiming bimorphic biological sex have still all refused to answer whether they believe the people on this page are male or female

That’s because complex medical conditions are for doctors and the patients themselves to comment on.

As opposed to Self ID which is entirely a political proposal from the lunatic fringe.