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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Twitter taking action against accounts that deadname the Soham child murderer?

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LangCleg · 09/06/2018 18:35

Yes, apparently it is.

twitter.com/pamelacuna/status/1005072367918477314

(See second reply.)

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Terfulike · 11/06/2018 08:21

Rrytym

Well for example Bruce Jenner is a dead name which must never be uttered or you are evil. In fairness Caitlin is less strict on this than most trans people.

Loopytiles · 11/06/2018 08:28

Orwellian.

Loopytiles · 11/06/2018 08:28

And yes, rhythmstix.

Bowlofbabelfish · 11/06/2018 08:29

Also is it now the case that anyone, anywhere, can just wake up one day and decide to call themselves a woman ? does this mean they will be able to go into female only places like women's hospitals, girls changing rooms and such?

That’s what all the fuss is about. There’s a proposed change to he law that would allow people to ‘self ID’ - and if that goes through, then yes. Men will just be able to do that.

And you won’t be able to challenge it, because that will be a hate crime.

This is why an awful lot of women are trying to get this in the news - right now the groups pushing for this are trying to get it in quietly under the Radar. They want all mention of sex replaced with gender, which means nothing and will erode the sex based protections in he equality act.

It will also impact heavily on child safeguarding - for example a male bodied teen could share sleeping and Washington g facilities with girls and their parents would not be informed. A girl who objected would be ‘re educated.’

Here is a good introduction: sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

Bowlofbabelfish · 11/06/2018 08:30

God the typos... sorry.

OfSpartacus · 11/06/2018 09:03

Is the child murderer and serial child rapist Ian Huntley now describing itself as a woman? Is it because he really is a woman or so he can get into women's prisons so he can rape more of them?

Yes but only In unconfirmed sources

No he's not really a woman. No men are really women. If you mean is this because he genuinely has gender dysphoria the answer is well maybe but it seems unlikely.

Yes probably. Or at least get an easier ride and the chance to intimidate women and play mind games with staff (eg forcing female prison staff to search him)

Even though this is an unconfirmed rumour someone has been banned from twitter for deadnaming him.

LangCleg · 11/06/2018 09:17

I don't think the reported account actually got banned - but there was a screenshot that the complaint had been upheld. So the reported account probably got access restricted until it deleted the offending "deadnaming" tweet.

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Sarahconnor1 · 11/06/2018 11:24

Not sure if this has already been posted.

mobile.twitter.com/A_C_McGregor/status/1005803747702919168

A lib dem member criticising people for dead naming Huntley on a thread from the Lib Dem LGBT Twitter account.
I notice that XYR also claims to be lib dem.

Sarahconnor1 · 11/06/2018 11:27

mobile.twitter.com/A_C_McGregor/status/1005803747702919168

Should be clicky now. This person also wants prisons segregated by feelz rather than sex.

Magpiesarehuge · 11/06/2018 12:42

Just looked at that guy’s twitter account (though he’s blocked me even though I’ve never heard of him) - what a vile man he is. He can fuck right off with his shitting on women and his gleeful cry of Terf to any women who he disagrees with.

2rebecca · 11/06/2018 12:45

Was it discussed on Talk Radio? Anyone hear it?

Pratchet · 11/06/2018 12:48

this ? thread

Sarahconnor1 · 11/06/2018 12:56

He has locked his account

Twitter taking action against accounts that deadname the Soham child murderer?
RedToothBrush · 11/06/2018 13:01

Good.

This is great publicity.

Let's see just how many activists are prepared to stand on a political platform and say they support a child murderer.

If you are not prepared to do that as a politician or an activist then, right there is an admission there is an issue which despite what you profess to believe you know it's problematic.

If you are prepared to do it, and ignore the obvious problem, you are going to rightly face the political wrath of the public for ignoring it.

If this murderer wants publicity and attention from this, then that in itself is an issue. It has the danger of showing up how the trans ideology is either something to hijack to exploit safeguarding loopholes, a way of attention seeking for fame / notoriety or some sense of 'specialness' or is something that is related to an underlying issue - perhaps psychology or social.

Elephants don't leave the room. They can't fit through the door. They either leave in pieces or they break the house doing so.

Magpiesarehuge · 11/06/2018 13:02

Oh boo hoo - so quick to dish out insults but quick to make sure he doesn’t have to read any criticism

Twitter taking action against accounts that deadname the Soham child murderer?
Pratchet · 11/06/2018 13:10

Lib Dems in a bind here. Doing nothing about this guy is condoning. Doing something about this guy is 'transphobic'.

Folding money they will stay silent and condone it.

Floisme · 11/06/2018 13:13

West Yorkshire again I see. I can't link at the moment but McGregor seems to have stood as a parliamentary candidate in Calder Valley and Leeds West.

SasBel · 11/06/2018 13:20

Magpies you will be on the terf blocker list, I am, did not know until I clicked on a post by a TiM.

Sarahconnor1 · 11/06/2018 13:27

He stood at the last council elections.
www.calderdale.gov.uk/council/democracy/electionresults/results.jsp?election=378&area=5

105 votes.

GeordieTerf · 11/06/2018 13:44

Unbelievable. I really feel for the victims' families every time there's renewed interest in this case. It must be so horrible when they're browsing the Internet and suddenly see that monster's ugly face. Sad

Even worse, this time people are supporting him! Angry

Sarahconnor1 · 11/06/2018 13:52

It's just awful isn't it.

The issue of whether huntley is trans or not is just a rumour. BUT the fact people will defend his gender feelz (rumour or not) shows just how far this cult like thinking has gone. The feelings of this man are more important than his victims and their families.

2rebecca · 11/06/2018 13:56

Have just listened to Julia HB on talk radio listen again. She interviews Nic Williams at 9.23. It was excellent. She correctly says that the only dead names here are Holly and Jessica

bd67th · 11/06/2018 15:11

@OfSpartacus, not banned when I last checked, but Xyr had posted a screenshot of the message Twitter give you when they confirm that they consider a tweet to be in violation.

And I agree with @askaterf and Zinnia that if you allow anyone to say they are a trans woman and have it enshrined in law that "trans women are women", you have to let anyone who says they are a trans woman go anywhere a natal woman can go, including letting rapist-murderers like Huntley into women's toilets and changing rooms where women and girls change. Yes, we already let female rapist-murderers into the women's loos, but how many of those have there been compared to male ones? This is the root problem with self-id.

haXXor · 11/06/2018 15:20

Oh look, that A C McGregor guy is yet another IT consultant. There is something seriously fucked up with my industry, has been for a long time. The first six programmers of an electronic computer were all women, what went wrong?

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