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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Study find trans kids thrive after early transition

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Wakame · 04/06/2018 12:46

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/09/02/peds.2013-2958

A study has found that young adults who transitioned in childhood through puberty suppression and cross sex hormones are thriving. Here's an excerpt:

"After gender reassignment, in young adulthood, the GD was alleviated and psychological functioning had steadily improved. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population. Improvements in psychological functioning were positively correlated with postsurgical subjective well-being."

It's a small study, but of course, when the results are so unambiguous, they become statistically significant even with smaller studies. You can of course counter this study with more science - just find a larger study that shows the opposite.

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GenderApostate · 06/06/2018 12:09

Good riddance to yet another wind up merchant Star

Wakame · 06/06/2018 15:09

If transition through puberty blockade and cross-sex hormones is so disastrous, why are all the young adults in the study so happy?

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Mrskeats · 06/06/2018 15:35

Please go away wakame we are all bored of you now. We have already established the study is flawed. I’m becoming a eunuch is a laugh a minute. Go bother someone else.

Mrskeats · 06/06/2018 15:36

*sure

OldCrone · 06/06/2018 15:41

Wakame
Can you explain to me why you think that children being helped to come to terms with the body they were born with is such a bad idea?

TammySwansonTwo · 06/06/2018 17:53

Firstly, they’re assessing them 12 months down the line from surgery, so who knows what their futures will hold and how their future health will be impacted?

Secondly, I’m wondering if you even read past the abstract?

*These adolescents belonged to a group of 196 consecutively referred adolescents between 2000 and 2008, of whom 140 had been considered eligible for medical intervention and 111 were prescribed puberty suppression (see de Vries et al16). The young adults were invited between 2008 and 2012, when they were at least 1 year past their GRS (vaginoplasty for transwomen, mastec- tomy and hysterectomy with ovariec- tomy for transmen; many transmen chose not to undergo a phalloplasty or were on a long waiting list). Non- participation (n = 15, 11 transwomen and 4 transmen) was attributable to not being 1 year postsurgical yet (n = 6), refusal (n = 2), failure to return questionnaires (n = 2), being medi- cally not eligible (eg, uncontrolled di- abetes, morbid obesity) for surgery (n = 3), dropping out of care (n = 1), and 1 transfemale died after her vag- inoplasty owing to a postsurgical necrotizing fasciitis.”

So less than half of that cohort prescribed puberty blockers are included in this study. One of them died - do you assume the rest of them are happy too? Is it not possible that only those who are happy wanted to continue with the study?

Ereshkigal · 06/06/2018 18:34

1 transfemale died after her vag- inoplasty owing to a postsurgical necrotizing fasciitis.”

That's awful. Thanks

Starkstaring · 06/06/2018 18:37

1 died? Out of about 100 (I think) that underwent surgery???? Just looked up the chances of dying as a result of cosmetic surgery on the basis that these people are also otherwise healthy. It's 1 in 30,000.

What kind of distorted world view is it that thinks it is better to operate on individuals than help them come to terms with their own body? Or to change society so people don't feel compelled to alter themselves. It's dystopian.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/06/2018 18:44

Agree Starkstaring. It is utterly wrong headed.

TammySwansonTwo · 06/06/2018 20:34

We don’t actually know how many hadthe surgery out of the 111. It states that four definitely did not, because they were medically ineligible for surgery or they dropped out of care. It only gives figures for 15 exclusions, 11 of which were TIMs, so goodness knows what happened with the other 41.

But at best, 1 out of 95 died post surgery, in an utterly horrific way. 55 others out of 110 are not represented, that’s half the field, but yet the figures are presented as a success.

FloraFox · 06/06/2018 22:40

If transition through puberty blockade and cross-sex hormones is so disastrous, why are all the young adults in the study so happy?

Because the study excluded the ones who were unhappy or dead as a result of transition.

TammySwansonTwo · 07/06/2018 18:00

Huh, so OP had no comeback to personal experience with the drug, and no comeback to people who’ve actually read the study and pointed out that half the field are missing? Shocker.

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